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Re: What have you done for your Rig lately.
« Reply #1740 on: July 09, 2019, 10:38:26 AM »
Center console fridge mod = the coolest mod I've ever seen! (no pun intended... it's just awesome!)

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Re: What have you done for your Rig lately.
« Reply #1741 on: July 09, 2019, 12:15:26 PM »
A Center console fridge is like a hooker on speed dial.  Some things, shouldn't be that convenient ::)

BTW, I like all of your electrical choices, and common sense wiring.  Well done Sparky
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Re: What have you done for your Rig lately.
« Reply #1742 on: July 09, 2019, 05:12:03 PM »
A Center console fridge is like a hooker on speed dial.  Some things, shouldn't be that convenient ::)

BTW, I like all of your electrical choices, and common sense wiring.  Well done Sparky

I'm going to skip the first part, all though my Bang has been extra cold lately.

As for the wiring, Jordan and I have talked about how to do it for months.  Finally settled on what we feel is a good way to do it.
Wiring was all done by Jordan while I stood there and asked him annoying questions.  And, occasionally handed him stuff. 
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Re: What have you done for your Rig lately.
« Reply #1743 on: July 09, 2019, 08:37:36 PM »
That is absolutely awesome!

Been working on my power and future fridge set up. I might steal some ideas from you. About to purchase the fridge. What size dometic is that and are you happy with the size? I've been debating different sizes for awhile now. The CFX-40 is currently in the lead.
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Re: What have you done for your Rig lately.
« Reply #1744 on: July 09, 2019, 11:32:08 PM »
*caveats

If you're going to put the fridge in the same position as mine, rear 40% seat folded down and on top, any of the major brand 60L to 65L will fit. 
*shameless plug for my build thread*  If you look at my build thread, I started with a 43L edgestar, then went to a 65L edgestar, then went to the 60L Dometic.  I guess I'm a fridge whore?  Never laid it out like that before.

Regarding the actual fridge you choose - in the 60L size bracket, I would definitely go with a single zone deal.  My dometic is kind of a bastard child, beta on the public sort of situation.  It is marketed as "dual zone" but the dual sones are represented by a removable wall.  I only ever use it, after much trial and error over many trips as a fridge.  Just yank the "wall" out and it's a reasonable fridge.
My questions about the shit performance of my "dual zone" fridge at MRV and Expo West by high level dometic people was, yeah, that fridge sucks, but we learned a lot while doing it.  Luckily, I bought it used from a guy who has more money than he knew what to do with and sold it to me for a song. 

At 75L+ , you can start talking about dual zone, dual compressor units.  These are freaking awesome, but also huge. 

If you're going to get fancy with your fridge mounting and build a low pro platform where the 40% rear split is, be prepared to lose rearwards mobility of the front passengers seat.  Jordan has a 40L edgestar, which is one of the stubbier, taller units in the field and it definitely limits the rear mobility of the front seat.  If the only person that sits there is your 5'5" gf, then you're golden.  But, if your buddy is 6'3" then it's going to be a jockey box knee interface situation. 

You didn't ask, but I'll prognosticate anyways.

Powering your fridge.
Couple of situations here.
1.  I only power my fridge when I'm on trips.
2.  I want my fridge to be on all the time, even when I'm at work.

Situation 1.
If you haven't already, replace your stock battery with a high quality, agm battery.  I first replaced mine with an Odyssey group 31 which all though awesome, is too race car to be hooked up to our alternators.  Our alternators are "smart" which means they won't give the Odyssey the 14.8v it wants to fully charge and be happy. 
What I did, when my Odyssey group 31m died was went to Batteries Plus and bought an X2Power 27F battery.
It offers most of the features of the Odyssey, but doesn't require the fancy charging.
And, when I say fancy charging, I mean once a week, you plug the Odyssey into a specially designed charger to top it off. 
Even doing that might not be enough as evidenced by my dead Odyssey and warranty replacement.
ANYWAYS, if you put a GOOD agm battery in as your only battery for starting and running your fridge while camping, you're going to need an additional power source. 
I would suggest buying a minimum 100w all in one solar set up from a company like Renogy.
If possible, spec it with an MPPT controller instead of a PWM.
If you are electrically handy, I would suggest buying a solar panel, wire and controller separately and putting the kit together yourself.
Jordan has his solar MPPT solar controller mounted under the hood so when we get to camp, he just plugs in the panels. 
The MPPT controllers will typically let you specify the voltage you want the controller to ramp to before it charges your batteries.
I would suggest buying a pre-made, 20-30' cable to extend the usable distance of your solar panels. Sometimes when you park up, you will be in shade for most of the day.
Again, you can build these to taste and for probably cheaper if you are at all savvy. 

Situation 2
The answer is obvious - I am running my fridges all the time.
The obvious answer, to me - a big freaking agm battery, solar and a dc to dc charger.
Due to my Odyssey warranty situation, I based my system on that, but if it was a fresh field I would strongly consider lithium batteries.
Lithium batteries bring in a whole new level of sophistication, but I'm fairly certain the price to function equation is getting closer to favorable. 
There are a couple of giant F's in lithiums favor.  #1 Price.  #2 Price again, but for supporting mods.  The price for controllers and dc to dc chargers for those are high. 
Lithium batteries offer almost twice the amp hours that agm do, however they are about twice the cost.  (for laymen that can not navigate cryptic ebay or ally express listings)  Somebody like Jordan will pioneer this route for us, but until he does, the dumb agm is the way to go. 

So, that's probably more than you wanted, but I felt like typing, lol
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Re: What have you done for your Rig lately.
« Reply #1745 on: July 10, 2019, 07:17:38 AM »
Steve,

Thanks for the reply. Way more than I asked for but exactly what I needed.

I'm going to start with the fridge in the same spot as you have yours then look into putting it on a slide in the back. I already built myself drawers so I need to see how well it fits. Modify the drawers or keep it behind the passenger seat. My girlfriend is fairly tall but my wife is only 5' 1" and she's the only one who usually goes on trips with me  :P. Mostlly I'm by myself. Except for beer I don't usually have that much that needs to be cold. I'm leaning toward smaller fridge and then if I need more just add the old cooler and ice.

I just ordered the Dometic PLB-40 Lithium battery. Doing the math it is only ~$100-$200 more when adding up the extras. It's solar ready and can be charged by the cigarette lighter sockets. Measured the power drop to the rear socket and it's not bad at all. Should run the fridge for close to two days without recharge.

I already have solar. A portable Zamp 80 watt. I mounted the plug to the front bumper and plug it in when I camp. Running the panel to the best sunny spot. With the new lithium I will have to change to an anderson and plug directly into it. I'm hoping this can extend the fridge running by another day without driving.

Long term, I would like to run the fridge all the time. That means bigger solar and a way to mount it to the roof. How did you run the solar wiring to the roof? I always worry about leaks when doing something like this.

Thanks for the excellent reply.

G.B.H. 

*caveats

If you're going to put the fridge in the same position as mine, rear 40% seat folded down and on top, any of the major brand 60L to 65L will fit. 
*shameless plug for my build thread*  If you look at my build thread, I started with a 43L edgestar, then went to a 65L edgestar, then went to the 60L Dometic.  I guess I'm a fridge whore?  Never laid it out like that before.

Regarding the actual fridge you choose - in the 60L size bracket, I would definitely go with a single zone deal.  My dometic is kind of a bastard child, beta on the public sort of situation.  It is marketed as "dual zone" but the dual sones are represented by a removable wall.  I only ever use it, after much trial and error over many trips as a fridge.  Just yank the "wall" out and it's a reasonable fridge.
My questions about the shit performance of my "dual zone" fridge at MRV and Expo West by high level dometic people was, yeah, that fridge sucks, but we learned a lot while doing it.  Luckily, I bought it used from a guy who has more money than he knew what to do with and sold it to me for a song. 

At 75L+ , you can start talking about dual zone, dual compressor units.  These are freaking awesome, but also huge. 

If you're going to get fancy with your fridge mounting and build a low pro platform where the 40% rear split is, be prepared to lose rearwards mobility of the front passengers seat.  Jordan has a 40L edgestar, which is one of the stubbier, taller units in the field and it definitely limits the rear mobility of the front seat.  If the only person that sits there is your 5'5" gf, then you're golden.  But, if your buddy is 6'3" then it's going to be a jockey box knee interface situation. 

You didn't ask, but I'll prognosticate anyways.

Powering your fridge.
Couple of situations here.
1.  I only power my fridge when I'm on trips.
2.  I want my fridge to be on all the time, even when I'm at work.

Situation 1.
If you haven't already, replace your stock battery with a high quality, agm battery.  I first replaced mine with an Odyssey group 31 which all though awesome, is too race car to be hooked up to our alternators.  Our alternators are "smart" which means they won't give the Odyssey the 14.8v it wants to fully charge and be happy. 
What I did, when my Odyssey group 31m died was went to Batteries Plus and bought an X2Power 27F battery.
It offers most of the features of the Odyssey, but doesn't require the fancy charging.
And, when I say fancy charging, I mean once a week, you plug the Odyssey into a specially designed charger to top it off. 
Even doing that might not be enough as evidenced by my dead Odyssey and warranty replacement.
ANYWAYS, if you put a GOOD agm battery in as your only battery for starting and running your fridge while camping, you're going to need an additional power source. 
I would suggest buying a minimum 100w all in one solar set up from a company like Renogy.
If possible, spec it with an MPPT controller instead of a PWM.
If you are electrically handy, I would suggest buying a solar panel, wire and controller separately and putting the kit together yourself.
Jordan has his solar MPPT solar controller mounted under the hood so when we get to camp, he just plugs in the panels. 
The MPPT controllers will typically let you specify the voltage you want the controller to ramp to before it charges your batteries.
I would suggest buying a pre-made, 20-30' cable to extend the usable distance of your solar panels. Sometimes when you park up, you will be in shade for most of the day.
Again, you can build these to taste and for probably cheaper if you are at all savvy. 

Situation 2
The answer is obvious - I am running my fridges all the time.
The obvious answer, to me - a big freaking agm battery, solar and a dc to dc charger.
Due to my Odyssey warranty situation, I based my system on that, but if it was a fresh field I would strongly consider lithium batteries.
Lithium batteries bring in a whole new level of sophistication, but I'm fairly certain the price to function equation is getting closer to favorable. 
There are a couple of giant F's in lithiums favor.  #1 Price.  #2 Price again, but for supporting mods.  The price for controllers and dc to dc chargers for those are high. 
Lithium batteries offer almost twice the amp hours that agm do, however they are about twice the cost.  (for laymen that can not navigate cryptic ebay or ally express listings)  Somebody like Jordan will pioneer this route for us, but until he does, the dumb agm is the way to go. 

So, that's probably more than you wanted, but I felt like typing, lol.
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Re: What have you done for your Rig lately.
« Reply #1746 on: July 13, 2019, 07:12:56 AM »
Finally my Hefty alum is up! Quality product, all mounts lined up, fog lights and winch easily attached. Took about 4 hrs with a buddy to install. I do have to adjust it a little more, small bracket gets in the way of the fogs not allowing the bumper to be pushed up another inch. Also need to find a suitable mount for the Warn controller, ideas?

FYI, this bumper is fitted ahead of the steel Shrock radiator skid I already have, mated perfectly.

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Re: What have you done for your Rig lately.
« Reply #1747 on: July 13, 2019, 10:56:06 PM »
Looks good! I love mine.
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