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Title: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SCsilverX on January 23, 2010, 07:16:46 PM
Alright, so this run is a go. Where do we want to meet and what time? I'd be more than happy to lead if we have a map of the trail. So who all is in?

I'll be on CB channel 22 (for my new age!).
my cell phone # is 7 six 5- 4 two 6-5 two eight 4

Meet Spot
2/6 9:00 - Chevron:
12659 Foothill Blvd Etiwanda, CA 91739, US
Exit the I15-E at Foothill Blvd and turn right.
http://tinyurl.com/yeo4xp

Rattlesnake Canyon [Moderate: ~ 25miles & 4 hours]
Starts off in the high desert washes, passes through a fun rocky, canyon, by some yucca & Joshua trees with a mine site and optional short dry waterfall climb along the way. At the burns canyon intersection we
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Oz on January 23, 2010, 09:14:08 PM
Alright, so this run is a go. Where do we want to meet and what time? I'd be more than happy to lead if we have a map of the trail. So who all is in?

I'm IN!
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SCsilverX on January 23, 2010, 10:04:25 PM
yesss. finally oz, we have coordinated something.

SCSilverX (Craig)
Logisense (Joe)
OZ
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on January 23, 2010, 11:22:30 PM
We are in.  This will be my first run, so lookin forward to it!   ;)

Ghost X - John (and my son Alex)  ;D
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SoCalXTerry on January 24, 2010, 08:00:25 AM
I am new to the club, but would like to join you
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: slantyshanty on January 24, 2010, 05:39:31 PM
Is this the right rattlesnake canyon?

(http://www.rattlesnakecanyontrail.com/images/map.jpg)

Wish I could make it, got a HUGE shipment of new Marines coming in around then.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Jeff08X on January 24, 2010, 08:30:10 PM
Im in.

Looking forward to meet everyone.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Soylent Yellow on January 24, 2010, 08:33:10 PM
I am new to the club, but would like to join you

Welcome to the club.  You're free to join in on any of the club runs.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Oz on January 24, 2010, 09:41:42 PM
Is this the right rattlesnake canyon?

(http://www.rattlesnakecanyontrail.com/images/map.jpg)

Wish I could make it, got a HUGE shipment of new Marines coming in around then.

Yes, thats the one.

http://www.rattlesnakecanyontrail.com/

I suggest we start from the North side and exit through Big Bear.  Meet somewhere near the 15 and Bear Valley so Peeps coming from the north can meet up with peeps from the south
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: FrankB on January 24, 2010, 10:04:55 PM
Wow. Who would have thought that Rattlesnake Canyon had its own website. Whoever put that together did a nice job.  Good to see the warnings about the cattle.

Have a good time everyone, I don't think I'll be able to make this one.  I do suggest that someone take the lead and post up a meet spot and time.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SCsilverX on January 25, 2010, 10:31:51 AM
Meet:
2/6 9:00 - Chevron:
12659 Foothill Blvd Etiwanda, CA 91739, US
Exit the I15-E at Foothill Blvd and turn right.
http://tinyurl.com/yeo4xp


Rattlesnake Canyon [Moderate: ~ 25miles & 4 hours]
Starts off in the high desert washes, passes through a fun rocky, canyon, by some yucca & Joshua trees with a mine site and optional short dry waterfall climb along the way. At the burns canyon intersection we
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: XterraTroy on January 25, 2010, 11:24:27 AM
Count me in!
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Bobby B. on January 25, 2010, 01:15:19 PM
Have fun everyone!

Please bear the Website's instructions about the trail in mind when you go.  Much of it is private property and the owners have long been pro-OHV and open-access.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Tremor on January 25, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
Hey guys im still kinda new to the site but i was wondering if this trail is passible for a some what newby at off roading in a stock 4x4 xterra? (alls i got is a light bar i fabed, and cranked tosions)

 i just went to silverado canyon and handled it pretty dam well. UNTIL i hydro locked the motor... aparently im suposed to go slooow into 2 1/2+ feet of water. long story short. engein blown. only good news that came out of that trip was some lessons lernt. and a new motor with 55,000 miles. (old one had 108,000). its still in the prosses of being put in at my dads shop. hopefully itll be done soon.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Oz on January 25, 2010, 02:13:25 PM
Meet:
2/6 9:00 - Chevron:
12659 Foothill Blvd Etiwanda, CA 91739, US
Exit the I15-E at Foothill Blvd and turn right.
http://tinyurl.com/yeo4xp


Rattlesnake Canyon [Moderate: ~ 25miles & 4 hours]
Starts off in the high desert washes, passes through a fun rocky, canyon, by some yucca & Joshua trees with a mine site and optional short dry waterfall climb along the way. At the burns canyon intersection we
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: andyman on January 25, 2010, 03:40:23 PM
Aw man...this looks so fun but I have snowboard races in Mammoth that weekend.
Another time.

Does anyone plan on going on a trip soon after that?
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: FrankB on January 25, 2010, 07:21:58 PM
I know it's almost 2 weeks away, but it sounds like a lot of new people may be on this run, so I'll throw out a few suggestions and things to consider (and try not to sound like anyone's mother while I'm at it, since everyone should be old enough to take care of themselves):

- There is apparently a lot of snow up in Big Bear right now (I heard tonight that the area is closed to all but local traffic). That could mean a lot of water in the canyon, which could add to difficulty (and fun, depending on your tires and point of view).

- Depending on the conditions the CHP could well require chains up there, so it might be prudent to carry a set just in case. Last couple of years the club turned down Burns Canyon instead of continuing all the way up in to BB.  I spoke with Mitch earlier tonight, he mentioned that some friends from a Bronco club were up on 2N02 or near there and found the snow to be too deep. 

- Someone asked about 2WD - the first time I did this run there was a 2WD pickup in the group. He spent most of the time strapped to the back of an Xterra, starting in the sand before we even got up into the canyon itself. I don't recommend it, especially when it's so wet.

- Please heed Bobby's earlier advice about traveling through the private ranch land. Also, that website that Oz linked earlier had some good info. If you saw that photo I posted in the other thread, those cattle have pretty sharp horns, but to not upset them.

- In the past a secondary meet spot was often set up at the trailhead, for people coming in from other than the south. Or, as Oz mentioned, somewhere off of I-15 on the way to the trailhead.  I would suggest exchanging cell phone numbers if you plan to meet anywhere other than at the Chevron.

- Most of all: Have a good time.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Soylent Yellow on January 25, 2010, 08:00:56 PM
I concure with Mother's advice.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: xtoolbox on January 26, 2010, 07:35:38 AM
This is a great trail, should be fun  ;D for everybody but yeah 4 wheel drive for sure.  

There is a couple of rocky parts but you can get through stock if you're carefull, take the step rails off and sliders will help.  The sand is the wash can be loose in places so keept the mo gowing and you will be fine.

Make sure to take the side spur to the mine, couple of optional dry waterfalls we always play around on.  Normally a good spot for lunch right at the base of the mine.

Wish I could go but that's Michael's birthday and he has his party and a basketball game that day so I'm out.   Have fun and be safe.

Brian
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: fleury123 on January 26, 2010, 12:43:25 PM
Hey guys im still kinda new to the site but i was wondering if this trail is passible for a some what newby at off roading in a stock 4x4 xterra? (alls i got is a light bar i fabed, and cranked tosions)

 i just went to silverado canyon and handled it pretty dam well. UNTIL i hydro locked the motor... aparently im suposed to go slooow into 2 1/2+ feet of water. long story short. engein blown. only good news that came out of that trip was some lessons lernt. and a new motor with 55,000 miles. (old one had 108,000). its still in the prosses of being put in at my dads shop. hopefully itll be done soon.
choose the right lines with good to decent offroad tires can be done. Just dont follow brian..
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: GUANO on January 26, 2010, 04:03:35 PM
My wife and I plan on being there, this will be our first run (with you guys).

The first thing I did to my x was take off my sidesteps and mud flaps.

Looking forward to meeting you guys.  I plan on bringing a couple video cameras as well to film the action.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SuperSlideStyle on January 26, 2010, 05:58:26 PM
I LOVE THAT MAP!!!!!!!  We should have that avail for every trip.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on January 27, 2010, 11:57:52 AM
Meet:
2/6 9:00 - Chevron:
12659 Foothill Blvd Etiwanda, CA 91739, US
Exit the I15-E at Foothill Blvd and turn right.
http://tinyurl.com/yeo4xp
Taken from the 2008 run. Would this work as a meet spot/time?

Yes, works great.  See you there. 
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Logisense on January 27, 2010, 05:56:34 PM
i am FULL ON IN.  i will be coming from the north (Edwards AFB) but if you guys wanna meet up on the west side of the mountain and caravan over thatd be sweet.  as long as i have a good address i can meet anyone anywhere.  Jake (xterradude) and i ran rattle snake canyon (correction: we did rattlesnake to burns canyon, 2N02  into big bear) over easter in 2008.  it is a BLAST  im stocked to see what its going to be like with the snow thats up there.  i have no problem tucking the tail if i need to.  Oz  i got yo numba so i'll keep in touch.  i need to find a place for a GOOD tow strap and maybe (fingers crossed for wife approval) a hi lift kit (cheezy come-a-long and all).  i havent been on the boards in a LONG time (both here and at the new x) but if theres any AV xterras out there hti me up for some weeekend fun! i live in Rosamond now!

-Joe
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Oz on January 27, 2010, 09:21:45 PM
Looking forward to this one boyzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on January 28, 2010, 10:06:08 AM
Okay, just did a quick accounting for who is "in" and who is "tentative."  Please confirm so we get a better idea of numbers and who is "officially" attending:

9 confirmed from the boards as attending as of Feb. 5th:

SCsilverX + Guest Taco
OZ
GhostX (John)
OCXJocky
Jeff08X
XterraTroy
Logisense (Joe)
Rexterra


2 tentative:
Soylent Yellow (Mitch)
sturndog


9 can't attend, but responded:
Andyman
fleury123
xtoolbox
Bobby B.
slantyshanty
Frank B.
Tremor :(
fuelnjktr (Jim)
Paul
GUANO (fridge hunter)


FRS and Amatuer Radio Information:

FRS:

February = Channel 2
Xterra= Sub-channel 24

Amateur radio= 2M 146.52 "wilderness channel" simplex

 
 
 


Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Tremor on January 28, 2010, 02:08:35 PM
my X will sadly not be done in time for this trip :[ wont be able to attend
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SCsilverX on January 28, 2010, 02:41:43 PM
my buddy is bringing his tacoma along for the trip.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Paul on January 28, 2010, 06:57:31 PM
Trixie the Wonder Dog, Noon, and Paul their driver - tentative.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Oz on January 29, 2010, 06:03:50 PM
Trixie the Wonder Dog, Noon, and Paul their driver - tentative.

Be great to see you all Paul
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: fuelnjktr on January 30, 2010, 01:14:15 AM
New Member, but old wheeler...would love to join you guys...put me down as tentative until I can rearrange work schedule. 

Jim
KG6QWM
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Paul on January 31, 2010, 06:09:47 PM
Looks like a pretty good chance of more snow along the trail this week and rain later ... the long range forecast is guessing next weekend's weather along the trail.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: sturndog on January 31, 2010, 09:06:08 PM
I would love to see everyone, if weather is not too bad and do I need chains? I would be coming from Brian's neck of the woods in Torrance - I have new MT Destinations 33s , great in snow -suck on ice like all muds do. Also I am listing as tentative because Friday Feb 5th I go under knife (skin cancer two places around eyes) nothing big but I do poorly on anesthetics. 
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SCsilverX on February 01, 2010, 10:03:44 AM
everyone still good to go for saturday? if anyone wants to caravan to the meet spot along the way from san clemente, let me know. i have posted my cell phone number in the first post along with the CB channel i will be on.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 01, 2010, 01:53:45 PM
Quote
Looks like a pretty good chance of more snow along the trail this week and rain later ... the long range forecast is guessing next weekend's weather along the trail.

Paul, I agree, trip is a go weather permitting.  Right now, a 40% chance of rain/snow for Big Bear for Saturday.

Quote
everyone still good to go for saturday? if anyone wants to caravan to the meet spot along the way from san clemente, let me know. i have posted my cell phone number in the first post along with the CB channel i will be on.

SCSilverX, I will give you a call today to coordinate.  Personally, I would like to go, come H*** or highwater, and just turnaround if the going is unpassable.  I spoke with a friend who owns a cabin in Big Bear, and they were up yesterday and said the snow pack there is unprecedented.  8 feet tall in some places, and that they were actually trucking the snow down the mountain in dump trucks. 

Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: XterraTroy on February 01, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
I am in 100%. FRS channel?
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Paul on February 01, 2010, 05:40:56 PM
I am in 100%. FRS channel?

February = 2
Xterra= Sub-channel 24

Amateur radio= 2M 146.52 "wilderness channel" simplex
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Paul on February 01, 2010, 05:56:47 PM
The storm that's coming doesn't look too big at this distance and is likely to hit hardest Wednesday so things ought to be good by Saturday.

I would love to see everyone, if weather is not too bad and do I need chains? I would be coming from Brian's neck of the woods in Torrance - I have new MT Destinations 33s , great in snow -suck on ice like all muds do. Also I am listing as tentative because Friday .  

Chains!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/paul1960/Xterra/Chains.jpg)

Road Closures
http://www.dot.ca.gov/janstormclosures.php (http://www.dot.ca.gov/janstormclosures.php)

Chain Requirements (247 has to be open) If Big Bear/Arrowhead area is snowed in you can check running north up the 15 to Bear Valley Road, to the 18, to the 247 working your way in from the west. I'm coming up from the south taking the 10 thru Cabazon, north on the 62, then north along the 247 to the east of the trail.

http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi (http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi)

The trail starts at N34 22.1407 W116 38.9869 +/- 50 feet.

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Feb 5th I go under knife (skin cancer two places around eyes) nothing big but I do poorly on anesthetics

Hope everything goes well.  :-\

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/paul1960/Xterra/08-12%20Dec%202008%20Rattlesnake%20Canyon/10Casuality.jpg)

(you had to know that was coming!)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 01, 2010, 07:18:37 PM
February = 2
Xterra= Sub-channel 24

Amateur radio= 2M 146.52 "wilderness channel" simplex

Thanks Paul!  Does this mean you are able to make it??

Nice photo of the "road kill..."    :D :D :D

Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Rexterra on February 01, 2010, 08:20:45 PM
I



am




in!  ;D
Title: Rattlesnake Canyon Attendees ~ As of FEBRUARY 2nd, 2010
Post by: Ghost65 on February 02, 2010, 05:41:21 AM
Okay, just did a quick accounting for who is "in" and who is "tentative."  Please confirm so we get a better idea of numbers and who is "officially" attending:

10 confirmed from the boards as attending as of Feb. 2nd:

SCsilverX + Guest Taco
OZ
GhostX (John)
OCXJocky
Jeff08X
XterraTroy
GUANO
Logisense (Joe)
Rexterra


5 tentative:
Soylent Yellow (Mitch)
XterraTroy
Trixie the Wonder Dog, Noon, and Paul their driver
fuelnjktr (Jim)
sturndog


7 can't attend, but responded:
Andyman
fleury123
xtoolbox
Bobby B.
slantyshanty
Frank B.
Tremor :(


FRS and Amatuer Radio Information:

FRS:

February = Channel 2
Xterra= Sub-channel 24

Amateur radio= 2M 146.52 "wilderness channel" simplex

 
 
 



Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Rexterra on February 02, 2010, 08:08:26 AM
Will there be a northern meeting spot for Joe and (maybe) me?

Main in Hesperia or Bear Valley Road???
I'll try and work it our with Logisense.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: xtoolbox on February 02, 2010, 08:30:21 AM
John....go  ;D you don't have to go up to Big Bear to exit .  In fact I would recommend against it due to snow day trippers  that make the trip down very long. 

Just head out toward burns cyn like we did last year or take the other road out (forgot the name of it)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Paul on February 03, 2010, 07:11:12 PM
Weather forcast for Burns Canyon/Rattlesnake Canyon

Thursday Night: A 20 percent chance of snow after 10pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 26. West wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Friday: A 50 percent chance of snow, mainly after 10am. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 43. West wind between 5 and 10 mph. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Friday Night
: Snow likely, mainly after 10pm. Patchy fog after 10pm. Otherwise, cloudy, with a low around 28. Southwest wind between 5 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.

Saturday
: Snow showers likely, mainly before 10am. Patchy fog before 10am. Otherwise, cloudy, with a high near 41. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Saturday Night: A 40 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 25. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SCsilverX on February 03, 2010, 07:23:48 PM
i'm from indiana, 3-7 inches of snow is nothing  ;D
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: justin4x4 on February 03, 2010, 08:54:32 PM
Good luck to everyone who goes!
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 04, 2010, 06:46:35 AM
3-7 inches of snow is nothing  ;D

This is very true, on flat ground.  ;D 

Looks like it will be cold, so dress warm everyone, bring some gloves, a warm hat, and prepare for wet and muddy conditions on the trail.  Hot coffee and hot cocoa will be the beverage du jour for sure.  ;D
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Paul on February 04, 2010, 07:36:15 AM
We're out.

Trixie passed away early this morning and we're both wrecks.

http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,558.0.html
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 04, 2010, 12:06:40 PM
We're out.

Trixie passed away early this morning and we're both wrecks.

http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,558.0.html

Of course..take care Paul...
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Logisense on February 04, 2010, 05:13:46 PM
i'm from indiana, 3-7 inches of snow is nothing  ;D

thats my midwestern boy craig!!  WOO WOOO!!

-------

since we are going to run this thing from north to south, i say meet up in Apple Valley at 0930.  granted it means you people down the hill have to start a little earlier, but it'll leave us plenty of sun in case the trail is too snowed in and we have to turn around.
_____
(2nd) meet point?

0930
Apple Valley Mobil
13740 Central Rd
Apple Valley, CA 92307
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=13740+Central+Rd,+Apple+Valley,+CA&sll=34.501076,-117.172753&sspn=0.002031,0.003345&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=13740+Central+Rd,+Apple+Valley,+San+Bernardino,+California+92307&ll=34.501101,-117.170756&spn=0.00809,0.009291&z=17&iwloc=A (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=13740+Central+Rd,+Apple+Valley,+CA&sll=34.501076,-117.172753&sspn=0.002031,0.003345&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=13740+Central+Rd,+Apple+Valley,+San+Bernardino,+California+92307&ll=34.501101,-117.170756&spn=0.00809,0.009291&z=17&iwloc=A)
______

whatcha think everyone?

rex, how does this sound to you for a spot to meet up at if no one else wants to?
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Logisense on February 04, 2010, 05:35:07 PM
We're out.

Trixie passed away early this morning and we're both wrecks.

http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,558.0.html

Paul, im so sorry to hear this! :(
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Oz on February 04, 2010, 08:26:53 PM
We're out.

Trixie passed away early this morning and we're both wrecks.

http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,558.0.html

Very sorry for your loss Paul

-------------{-----@
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: sturndog on February 04, 2010, 10:13:22 PM
Paul and Noon we are deeply sorry for your families loss. Trixie was blessed to have you, I hope when you travel again your Xterra does not feel empty, rather your hearts filled with Trixie's love,faithfulness and devotion. In a way Trixie is not gone but scouting ahead the road we all have to take....Sturndog (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/sturndog/paulmonacheriver.jpg?t=1265350251)

Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Paul on February 05, 2010, 08:14:29 AM
Thanks guys!

The first day was hard, it's a bit easier today.

Updated Weather from the junction of Burns and Rattlesnakes.

Today: Snow, mainly after 10am. High near 43. Windy, with a west wind 10 to 15 mph increasing to between 25 and 30 mph. Winds could gust as high as 50 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

Tonight: Snow showers. Some thunder is also possible. Low around 20. Windy, with a southwest wind between 25 and 30 mph, with gusts as high as 55 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 10 to 14 inches possible.

Saturday: Snow showers. Some thunder is also possible. High near 38. Southwest wind between 10 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible.

Dress warm, watch your fingers, ears, and nose if you're getting those snow showers in 30 mph winds. If the area gets 10 to 14 inches of snow and 30-55 mph winds you're going to have some beautiful drifts that can be really deep. Keep your toes and fingers dry, wear a warm hat. Extra socks and shoes will make for a nice ride home.

Paul (grew up in Chicago)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: GUANO on February 05, 2010, 10:01:56 AM
hey paul, I've been through that waterhole, monache meadows jeep trail lol, that was the first run i took in my x.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9PGXfL9yKc.

I may have to pull out at the last min, i'll let you know.  Is the meeting spot still planned to be the gas station in riverside?

I'll be bringing a couple video cameras on this trip and hope to get some sweet footage, you guys may have to pull up some of the hills but i'm deff picking up some chains today.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 05, 2010, 12:25:49 PM
Still planning on the gas station at 9 am.  

There might be a northern meet spot in addition, but for now we will meet in Etiwanda Chevron and go from there.  If there is a group consensus for another meet spot lets get that coordinated soon.  

As it is, I will be leaving San Diego at 6 am to arrive early there, so another 1/2 hour and more northerly meet spot makes a difference to me.

Meet Spot
2/6 9:00 - Chevron:
12659 Foothill Blvd Etiwanda, CA 91739, US
Exit the I15-E at Foothill Blvd and turn right.
http://tinyurl.com/yeo4xp (http://tinyurl.com/yeo4xp)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Rexterra on February 05, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
 

The second meeting spot is where I'll (Ed and my boys, Henry & William)
meet everyone!

Primary Meet Spot
2/6 9:00 - Chevron:
12659 Foothill Blvd Etiwanda, CA 91739, US
Exit the I15-E at Foothill Blvd and turn right.
 
Secondary Meet Point (for those coming from the North)
0930
Apple Valley Mobil
13740 Central Rd
Apple Valley, CA 92307


Good luck haulin arse to get there in only 30 min.
Roads are going to be a mess.

BTW, the Apple Valley Mobil is the one "slighty" outta the way just north of Bear Valley Cutoff
on Central and 18, right???
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: omarjetas on February 05, 2010, 02:33:44 PM
I have a 2wd is not work  in the trail right?????
Alright, so this run is a go. Where do we want to meet and what time? I'd be more than happy to lead if we have a map of the trail. So who all is in?

I'll be on CB channel 22 (for my new age!).
my cell phone # is 7 six 5- 4 two 6-5 two eight 4

Meet Spot
2/6 9:00 - Chevron:
12659 Foothill Blvd Etiwanda, CA 91739, US
Exit the I15-E at Foothill Blvd and turn right.
http://tinyurl.com/yeo4xp

Rattlesnake Canyon [Moderate: ~ 25miles & 4 hours]
Starts off in the high desert washes, passes through a fun rocky, canyon, by some yucca & Joshua trees with a mine site and optional short dry waterfall climb along the way. At the burns canyon intersection we
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Alex on February 05, 2010, 03:44:35 PM
I have a 2wd is not work  in the trail right?????
After hearing about the snowy conditions right now, I doubt 2WD will get very far.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 05, 2010, 03:57:34 PM
Good luck haulin arse to get there in only 30 min.
Roads are going to be a mess.

BTW, the Apple Valley Mobil is the one "slighty" outta the way just north of Bear Valley Cutoff
on Central and 18, right???

And that is assuming that we don't wait for any late arrivals at the first spot.  So realistically, we probably won't leave there until 9:45 or so, to give everyone time to arrive at the southery meet spot.

Should we set a meet time at the trail head?
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: GUANO on February 05, 2010, 04:51:04 PM
Damn it guys, hate to say that my worst fears have come true and I can't make it.  I recently moved from LB to Culver City and need to buy a new fridge before I can go out and play.  Really sucks because this is going to be an epic journey, and may not have another chance to go wheeling in the rain and snow in a loooooong time!
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 05, 2010, 05:10:40 PM
Okay, just did a quick accounting for who is "in" and who is "tentative."  Please confirm so we get a better idea of numbers and who is "officially" attending:

9 confirmed from the boards as attending as of Feb. 5th:

SCsilverX + Guest Taco
OZ
GhostX (John)
OCXJocky
Jeff08X
XterraTroy
Logisense (Joe)
Rexterra


2 tentative:
Soylent Yellow (Mitch)
sturndog


9 can't attend, but responded:
Andyman
fleury123
xtoolbox
Bobby B.
slantyshanty
Frank B.
Tremor :(
fuelnjktr (Jim)
Paul
GUANO (fridge hunter)


FRS and Amatuer Radio Information:

FRS:

February = Channel 2
Xterra= Sub-channel 24

Amateur radio= 2M 146.52 "wilderness channel" simplex

 
 
 




Okay, here is the count as of 5:10 pm, PST.  9 attending, seven from the South and two from the North.

Is that accurate?  GUANO, sorry you can't make it!  :(
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Oz on February 05, 2010, 06:38:44 PM
We're are still in (Zoe and I)

I want to reiterate the following because we're in for some weather.

Bring warm clothes (gloves, jackets, boots, etc - whatever you need to keep toasty)

Food for 3 days (i usually bring a bunch of energy bars and water for emergencies)

CHAINS if you have them.

Usual rigging for a run (tow straps, clevis shackles, tools, etc)

Prepare to air down more than usual.

If anyone has a "locked" vehicle they should be near the leaders in front to help pack down the snow for the open dif trucks behind like me :)

CB or FRS radios

Post if I forgot anything.

After peeps meet at the Primary and Secondary Meets spots we will join up at the trail head.

Can someone double check if this is the trailhead (running N to S):  34.370029,-116.650615




Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: FrankB on February 05, 2010, 07:17:30 PM
You guys should have a lot of fun up there. Looking forward to seeing the pictures and hearing about it.  I'm definitely out, as I just got home a few minutes ago from a 6-day trip. 

Oz's post above makes some good points.  If you plan to go all the way up to Big Bear be sure to take chains, in case the CHP enforces restrictions for the roads out of there.  It's maybe a bit late to mention this now, but everyone should have a way to air tires back up (or a friend willing to loan you something). Don't forget, as Brian mentioned earlier, you can turn down Burns Canyon towards Pioneer Town and Yucca Valley if the snow is too bad further up. You'll still have a really nice time.

Also, this probably goes without saying, but I think it should be clear that this run will be 4WD only (NO 2WD).
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: SCsilverX on February 05, 2010, 08:05:55 PM
the tacoma is not in running order, but he will be riding along with me. so this is an all xterra run! woo hoo. see most of you at 9. then the rest of you around 10.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 05, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
The latest on Highway 18 

This highway information is the latest reported as of Friday, February 5, 2010 at 22:01 .


SR 18 
    [IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
    CHAINS ARE REQUIRED ON ALL VEHICLES EXCEPT 4-WHEEL-DRIVE VEHICLES WITH SNOW
TIRES ON ALL 4 WHEELS FROM 5 MI EAST OF THE JCT OF SR 330 TO BIG BEAR DAM
(SAN BERNARDINO CO)

Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Jeff08X on February 05, 2010, 10:20:39 PM
Im still in. This should be a lot of fun.  ;D
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Alex on February 05, 2010, 10:28:16 PM
Have fun, and good luck. I'm looking forward to how it goes! :)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: subsport on February 05, 2010, 11:13:25 PM
Lori and I would liked to have made this one. We had a great time with you all at Borrego a couple months back. Next time for sure. Maybe Calico or the Panamints in March?
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Logisense on February 06, 2010, 05:24:40 AM
I'm awake and packin. Got the wife home from lax at 930 last night. We'll (Rex and I) see everyone up in apple valley at 10ish. The apple valley mobil will be a good last minute top off/snack grab for everyone. Oz. I got my big book o trails and it looks like we can pick up the trail head east on 247.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 06, 2010, 05:45:20 AM
The latest....
 This highway information is the latest reported as of Saturday, February 6, 2010 at 05:42 .


SR 247 
    [IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
    NO TRAFFIC RESTRICTIONS ARE REPORTED FOR THIS AREA.

This highway information is the latest reported as of Saturday, February 6, 2010 at 05:43 .


SR 18 
    [IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
    NO TRAFFIC RESTRICTIONS ARE REPORTED FOR THIS AREA.

 SR 38 
    [IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
    CHAINS ARE REQUIRED ON ALL VEHICLES EXCEPT 4-WHEEL-DRIVE VEHICLES WITH 
SNOW TIRES ON ALL 4 WHEELS FROM 5.8 MI WEST OF ONYX SUMMIT TO 7.5 MI WEST OF 
BIG BEAR DAM (SAN BERNARDINO CO)

...looks like we are good to go.  See you all this AM!!!!
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Logisense on February 06, 2010, 06:49:22 AM
WOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  headin out in 10 mins!  i got a few extra jackets for all you Californians ;)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Paul on February 06, 2010, 07:57:18 PM
Too soon to launch a rescue operation?   :-\
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Soylent Yellow on February 06, 2010, 08:34:29 PM
Too soon to launch a rescue operation?   :-\

I'm ready if needed.  ;)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: sturndog on February 06, 2010, 08:47:08 PM
That is because your X is submersible Mitch (http://xterra4x4.com/images/bin/submarine.jpg) good for those water recoveries.....
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Logisense on February 06, 2010, 08:47:47 PM
We made it through!!  Had a few skethcy spots but made it alive. Snow pack was 24"+ at times!!  Pictures to come!  There's three of us at dennys right now so we'll get em up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Oz on February 06, 2010, 09:48:28 PM
We're all ok

Fun day

Picts tomorrow
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 07, 2010, 06:26:57 AM
6 Xterras went in, overcame several off road challenges, and 6 Xterras emerged (some a little battered) victorious!


Well, that was an epic Xcursion. 

Thanks to everyone, it was a team effort getting through those drifts.  3 to 7 inches was a pretty converative estimate, I would guess 24 to 30 inches was a more accurate description.  I think the group that enjoyed (survived) this Xcursion should have a special "bond" (as OZ put it at the Valero gas station in Big Bear City, post run) for a long time to come.  The two stock rigs, Ed and I, had quite an initiation into the Club, and I think it was an experience that our kids will never forget.  Thanks to Joe, Craig, Oz, and Jeff for helping get us through the more challenging spots.  A great time...

John, GhostX
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Goldfish on February 07, 2010, 07:20:59 AM
Glad to hear everyone survived. Can't wait to see the pictures.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: FrankB on February 07, 2010, 01:23:21 PM
Glad to hear everyone survived. Can't wait to see the pictures.

No kidding . . . it could just as easily have turned out like the Donner Party from the sound of things.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Nissanpatrol on February 07, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
The yellow submarine was awesome :o
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Nissanpatrol on February 07, 2010, 03:04:51 PM
After all the bad weather, yes you guys have a good time and have a experience you'll never forget. ;)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Ghost65 on February 07, 2010, 07:06:47 PM
No kidding . . . it could just as easily have turned out like the Donner Party from the sound of things.

Ed (Rexterra) and I actually discussed this, and made a mental note to add ketchup to the Xcursion check list...just in case.  ;D
Title: Re: Rattlesnake Canyon-February 6th
Post by: Goldfish on February 08, 2010, 06:10:56 PM
Maybe Calico or the Panamints in March?
I like this idea. These are two places I have never been.