Post by: EJsarus on July 01, 2018, 12:26:32 PM
This will be 2018’s first official SCCX 2NO2 clean up/survey.
We need to thoroughly go thru the trail and mark/note any locations of interest for repairs, clean up or ranger’s attention. This being my first host, I will be taking lead and slowly creep thru the trail. Not exactly slow as hell but at a decent speed to ensure as much coverage. Family is encouraged but due to possible high temp weather, ensure vehicles have working A/C, water to hydrate & sunblock to prevent nasty burns.
Location: 2NO2 Burns Canyon trail ( Home trail of SCCX)
Trailhead:34°16'46.6"N 116°47'46.2"W
Date: July 29th, 2018
Meet up time: 0900hr
Comms:
CB- ch17
Ham Radio Simplex freq: 146.535
Rig requirements:
2) In generally good mechanical order (Working AC must!!)
3) Good recovery points front and rear
4) Communications of some variety, in descending order of preference – ham VHF, FRS, CB, horn, whistle, smoke signal, sign language
5) Storage for trash if needed
6) awning or canopy for shade (breaks/lunch etc)
Driver requirements:
1) Good attitude
2) Generally self-sufficient
3) Clean up equipment (gloves, trashbags etc)
Note: will attempt to get clean up equipment by AAT program.
4) Lunch and alot of water.
What To Bring List
Gloves
Bucket(s) 5Gal. if it's windy it's easier to put the shells in than carrying a garbage bag
Garbage bags
Rake
Shovel
Hat
Water Lots of it
First aid kit if needed
Hopefully after the run we can all get together at the restaurant down at Pioneertown. Once I get a head count, I can call in ahead to see if they can get an area separated for us.
Any suggestion would greatly appreciated.
Post by: EJsarus on July 01, 2018, 12:28:28 PM
1-Edwin562 +2 (family)
2-Jayrat + 1 (family)
3- Beedee +2 (family)
4- G.B.H
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Will need someone with a truck to attend. If nobody can get a pick up truck, I will try to get a buddy of mine who has been trying to do some trail runs to join us with his Tacoma.
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Post by: Celt on July 01, 2018, 02:48:22 PM
Post by: Jayrat on July 01, 2018, 03:37:08 PM
Post by: beedee on July 01, 2018, 06:13:35 PM
Will there be any caravans up the hill?
Post by: EJsarus on July 01, 2018, 06:44:14 PM
Thanks for setting this up Edwin!No problem. Will send you a PM to know how the rooster w/ hours work. that way I can submit them. If you attend, I can bring my laptop and do it all on there.
Put me down Jayrat + 1( 6 year old )Updated, thanks!
Thanks Edwin! Count me in and maybe my wife and toddler daughter, if it’s crazy hot I’ll just go solo. Starting on the Baldwin Lake side?
Will there be any caravans up the hill?
10-4, Yes we will be meeting up on that side. On the OP, the coordinates for the entrance is announced. At the moment, no caravan is set up but since this is a small club, I sure most will meet up at the spot. But if you want to meet up before hand, then we can sort it out.
Post by: RikRong on July 01, 2018, 07:44:17 PM
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Post by: EJsarus on July 01, 2018, 09:07:38 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on July 02, 2018, 09:25:41 AM
Now the bad news: unfortunately, the family and I are taking a trip to south Texas from 7/26 through 7/30, and I will therefore miss this trip. If it's any consolation, karma will be punishing in the form of Galveston heat and humidity for not being there to help you all.
If I can offer a few points:
1) That is peak thunderstorm season in that region of the mountains. You'll have a better idea of the weather as the event approaches, but I'd have a plan in my back pocket in the event that storms hammer the area. If they do, it would likely happen in the afternoon hours, between 1:00 pm and 6:00 pm. Just be ready is all I'm saying.
2) Those shooting areas are going to need TONS of work. If you get a big enough group, my recommendation would be to get almost everyone settled in at one (or both) of the shooting areas and start cleaning up while a much smaller team (yourself and at least one other rig) runs the remainder of the trail and performs a survey, taking photos and documenting anything you want the forest service to be aware of. In my opinion, this would be the best use of time, and would prevent a situation where you guys all end up staying in one area too long and then not having enough time to perform an effective survey of the rest of the route, or spending too much time surveying as a huge group and then not taking much action while you have the manpower on hand to help. If the shooting spots do require as much work as we think they will, it'll be a good idea to bring some shade tarps/eazy up style canopies and chairs for everyone to take a break and eat lunch. I have an easy up I'd be more than happy to loan out if you guys need it.
3) To support #2, and since I won't be able to be there for the actual cleanup event, I can go run the trail in advance of the group and report my findings back to you so you can have a solid plan for the group. It's not nearly as far of a drive for me as it is for most of the rest of the group. I won't do a full slow-survey like you're planning, but I can at least visit the shooting areas and look for anything major along the route that will require a lot of work. Other than the shooting areas, is there anything specific you'd like me to check on and report back about? I'm tentatively penciling this in for this Sunday, 7/7. I'll bring my trasharoo and some trash bags and pack out what I can while I'm at it.
4) Pending how bad the shooting areas are when I go look at them, maybe you can ask Greg and the forest service to support with a dumpster. Even if they have one brought to the top or bottom of the trail, it would save the group from having to haul everything back home or to the dumpster at the ranger station or discovery center. Hopefully you guys can get at least a couple of pickup trucks out there to assist. There are usually junk TVs and refrigerators and crap at those spots.
Post by: G.B.H. on July 02, 2018, 09:44:27 AM
G.B.H.
Post by: EJsarus on July 02, 2018, 04:17:10 PM
Post by: RBduffer on July 02, 2018, 09:14:04 PM
Joe is right on the dumpster idea. One time we had to beg, just the get one dumpster unlocked at the ranger station.
Post by: Jayrat on July 03, 2018, 09:16:44 AM
their non-X members >:D
Post by: G.B.H. on July 03, 2018, 12:49:02 PM
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G.B.H.
Post by: RikRong on July 03, 2018, 12:54:12 PM
I recently drove through Berdoo Canyon. If the shooting area of Burns Canyon is anything like that we will need several dumpsters just for the shell casings alone. It was a very depressing sight.They're just as bad, but you can also throw large debris on the list. Things like TVs, washers, propane tanks, etc.
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G.B.H.
Post by: G.B.H. on July 04, 2018, 08:49:29 PM
G.B.H.
Post by: EJsarus on July 04, 2018, 10:10:07 PM
Post by: knightrider on July 05, 2018, 12:56:33 AM
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Post by: G.B.H. on July 05, 2018, 11:52:31 AM
Being a Saturday night what do you think the odds of that spot being taken are? Are there many spots like it along the way? I was thinking about heading up 2n02 from Pioneertown.
G.B.H.
Post by: beedee on July 05, 2018, 12:23:41 PM
Post by: knightrider on July 05, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
That's a nice spot and set up!
Being a Saturday night what do you think the odds of that spot being taken are? Are there many spots like it along the way? I was thinking about heading up 2n02 from Pioneertown.
G.B.H.
There are a few different spots up there and I think most just go up there to check out the views for a bit then head back down.
Post by: Jayrat on July 06, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
What To Bring List
Gloves
Bucket(s) 5Gal. if it's windy it's easier to put the shells in than carrying a garbage bag
Garbage bags
Rake
Shovel
Hat
Water Lots of it
Post by: ultrapc40 on July 06, 2018, 11:26:51 AM
This a camping trip, there is a chance we will make it with the kiddo
Post by: EJsarus on July 06, 2018, 04:53:37 PM
Just to add (some are same)
What To Bring List
Gloves
Bucket(s) 5Gal. if it's windy it's easier to put the shells in than carrying a garbage bag
Garbage bags
Rake
Shovel
Hat
Water Lots of it
added this to the OP.
Post by: EJsarus on July 16, 2018, 09:49:39 PM
Post by: fourxfunk on July 16, 2018, 11:44:30 PM
I'll be heading to Little Rock for work that morning. I'll be there in spirit.Don't forget to check out the William Jefferson Clinton presidential library and massage parlor.
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Post by: Celt on July 17, 2018, 04:19:03 AM
Don't forget to check out the William Jefferson Clinton presidential library and massage parlor.
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I have heard that you get a free cigar and a copy of Slick Willie's book autographed by hiLIARY's husbands girlfriend with each massage?
Post by: EJsarus on July 19, 2018, 04:12:36 PM
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Post by: Jayrat on July 19, 2018, 04:49:36 PM
it's still on my calendar until I hear it's 100% not happening
Post by: beedee on July 20, 2018, 12:00:05 PM
Post by: EJsarus on July 24, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
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Post by: Jayrat on July 24, 2018, 10:53:54 PM
Post by: G.B.H. on July 25, 2018, 05:36:23 PM
Post by: Jayrat on July 26, 2018, 10:32:10 AM
Post by: EJsarus on July 26, 2018, 04:48:51 PM
We need to do this , we procrastinate way to much when it comes to our trail
I understand you point of view and agree with it. For the sake of risking potential heat related illness/injuries, I honestly wouldn't want to put anyone in that position. Yes I understand we been talking about it and making moves BUT its not worth risking our health. Im happy and glad the passion you have towards this but again not worth risking other's health.
Weather is looking promising sitting in the low 80F but the UV index is still in the 11 (extreme) I just want to address this before editing OP to lift the postpone and turn into a " at your own risk".
I will most likely move it to a different date.
Post by: zaphos on July 27, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
I'll be glad to help if I can. Unfortunately I can only offer trashbags in the back and my Trasharoo.
Post by: EJsarus on July 28, 2018, 11:08:57 PM
I will move this clean up to a different date with abit more time to plan. I feel like this was thrown together real fast. Another reason why...
Sorry guys, I feel like failure.
Post by: RBduffer on July 29, 2018, 05:45:24 PM
Good luck with the AC.
Post by: ultrapc40 on July 30, 2018, 06:36:56 AM
We need to get up there. I will have my dodge to help haul the larger items (as long as they fit in the camper shell.
Post by: steve c on July 30, 2018, 08:35:56 AM
Post by: RikRong on July 30, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
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Post by: EJsarus on July 30, 2018, 08:53:18 PM
How does Sept 8&9 look for everyone? It’s right after Labor Day weekend. Shooting area will likely be used heavenly the weekend before.
We need to get up there. I will have my dodge to help haul the larger items (as long as they fit in the camper shell.
Take the reins and lead it. As Steve stated, some of us will be at MR and im already counted for it.
Spencer, a few of us will be at Mountain Rendezvous that weekend.
Yep. Same here
Post by: JFanaselle on July 31, 2018, 09:28:41 AM
Spencer, a few of us will be at Mountain Rendezvous that weekend.
I think it's more than a few. You'll probably get a pretty bad turnout for a cleanup that weekend or the weekend after.