Post by: FrankB on October 03, 2017, 10:29:05 PM
Blair Valley Loop, Anza Borrego Desert State Park, with hiking to Ghost Mountain (Marshal South home site), Morteros and Pictograph Hiking Trails.
This is a mild one, with probably more time out of the trucks hiking and eating/socializing than driving. Blair Valley Loop is an easy 14 miles or so of mostly sandy trail driving, with 3 nice hikes along the way. We've done this one a few times in the past, there are picture threads in case you're wondering what it looks like.
Meet Time / Spot: Saturday November 18, 2017 - 10:00 AM at Blair Valley Primitive Camp, Anza Borrego Desert State Park, San Diego County.
Approx. 5.5 miles south of Scissors Crossing (the spot where San Diego County Road S-2 crosses SR 78) on County Road S-2, look for the campground and vault toilet building on the left, just before mile post 23. The campground, and even most of the trails we'll be on, are clearly marked on the Auto Club San Diego Region paper map, on all Anza Borrego Desert State Park paper maps, and on pretty much all other paper maps of the area.
This route should be stock and even 2WD friendly the entire way, but I have not been out there recently to confirm. That said, in the many times I've been to Blair Valley I've not needed 4WD or even felt the need to air down. I parked next to a BMW sedan at the Pictograph Trail parking area one time. If it rains right before we get there, there could be some mud on the last stretch on our way out.
We'll start out driving the long way around (just to get in some driving and enjoy the scenery) through Blair Valley to the trailhead for Yaquitepec, the site of Marshal South's family home on the top of Ghost Mountain. The hiking trail is a steep 1-mile each way, with a significant elevation gain on the way up. If nothing else* - wear sturdy shoes. At the top are the remains of the adobe home and South's elaborate water system. The views from the home site on the summit of Ghost Mountain are spectacular.
You can read about Marshal South here: Marshal South Desert USA (http://www.desertusa.com/desert-people/marshal-south.html)
After lunch somewhere in the valley (we know a good spot that we've used in the past) we'll drive to the trail head for the Pictograph Hiking Trail, an easy 1-mile each way trail (some elevation gain, but hardly noticeable) that leads to a large boulder covered with Indian pictographs. This area sits at a much higher elevation than other parts of Anza Borrego so the vegetation is completely different, and much more abundant. From the rock it's another 1/2 mile or so out to an amazing overlook view of the Carrizo Badlands. On the way back out to the highway, if time permits, we can also do the easy half mile or so round-trip hike (really a walk) to the Morteros, the site of an old Indian village.
Optional Camping Saturday Night: I don't plan to camp, but there are several options for camping on Saturday (or Friday) if anyone is interested. There is a State Park Primitive Camp at Blair Valley, with vault toilets. You can also camp in other parts of the valley, there are marked and unmarked spots in both Blair Valley and Little Blair Valley. Across S-2 and south a bit is the entrance to Chariot and Rodriquez Canyons, there are a few nice camp spots in there as well. You are also not to far from Arroyo Seco del Diablo or Pinyon Mountain. Let me know if you want some specific suggestions or ideas. Keep in mind that ground fires are not allowed in the State Park, you will need a metal fire container.
Reference:
Wells Guide to So Cal Backroads & 4WD Trails, number 53, page 191.
Comm:
FRS Channel 11, sub-code 24
Let me know if you're interested. Also, anyone coming from the San Diego area is welcome to caravan out with me. Check with me for details of where to meet. I'll be leaving the area of the intersection of Scripps Poway Parkway and Pomerado Road at 8:00AM, so that I can get to the Pie Company main bakery in Santa Ysabel right when they open at 9:00am. The Pie Company main bakery in Santa Ysabel is also an alternate meet spot on the way out from San Diego.
Note: This day will be entirely within the boundaries of the Anza Borrego Desert State Park. As a California State Park there are several rules and regulations that you might want to be aware of, since the rangers do enforce them.
Anza Borrego Desert State Park Visitor Info (https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=638)
Please post any comments, suggestions or questions.
Also - Please be sure to let me know you're coming so we don't wind up waiting too long at the meet spot. It also helps for knowing how many pies to pick up at the bakery.
* You may have heard talk of "clothing optional". Some of the historical accounts state that Marshal South and his family were nudists and supposedly required all visitors to their home to leave their clothes at the bottom of the hill. While some of you may feel inclined to honor Mr. South by going "clothing optional" on the hike to his homesite, I remind you that (a) it's a strenuous hike with lots of cactus and rocks along the way, (b) he's long dead, so not likely to be judgmental if you show up wearing clothes, and (c) the rest of us don't really need to see that.
Post by: Jayrat on October 03, 2017, 10:50:00 PM
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Post by: RBduffer on October 04, 2017, 09:34:35 AM
Edited for Update^^^^
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Post by: Celt on October 05, 2017, 04:29:03 AM
The Queen and I shall attend.
You wanna do an overnight camp?
Post by: CraigBos on October 05, 2017, 09:17:03 PM
If nothing else* - wear sturdy shoes.
Classic!
Post by: valentin36 on October 05, 2017, 10:46:23 PM
I’m in plus 1
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Post by: Jayrat on November 16, 2017, 03:11:27 PM
Frank do you have the name tags printed up
Post by: FrankB on November 16, 2017, 03:33:35 PM
1.5 days
Frank do you have the name tags printed up
Jay, I was planning to work on the name tags, along with the single-malt list and laminating the communication plan details of HAM frequencies tonight, but then I remembered that it is food meet night, and that I don't have a printer or a HAM license and don't drink Scotch much, and so decided to skip all of that.
I hope you are not disappointed.
Post by: FrankB on November 16, 2017, 03:37:44 PM
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Post by: KickinTires on November 16, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Frank, can I plan to meet you at your house and caravan out from there?
Post by: FrankB on November 16, 2017, 08:50:54 PM
I'm planning on going. It's been forever that I've been on a run with the SCCX Group. Looking forward to it.
Frank, can I plan to meet you at your house and caravan out from there?
Mark, it will be great to see you. My house at 8:00am.
Post by: FrankB on November 16, 2017, 08:52:35 PM
Need us to bring anything to share at lunch?
Edwin, you don't have to bring anything, but you are certainly welcome to if you would like.
What we could use, in case I don't get a chance to pick some up, are plastic forks for people to eat the pie with. I got a stack of paper plates the other day, but forgot about the forks.
Post by: EJsarus on November 16, 2017, 10:02:57 PM
Edwin, you don't have to bring anything, but you are certainly welcome to if you would like.
What we could use, in case I don't get a chance to pick some up, are plastic forks for people to eat the pie with. I got a stack of paper plates the other day, but forgot about the forks.
its the least I can do, I got the forks covered.
Post by: knightrider on November 17, 2017, 12:07:13 AM
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Post by: KickinTires on November 17, 2017, 09:21:08 AM
Mark, it will be great to see you. My house at 8:00am.
OK, I'll be there a little before 8:00am...
Post by: CraigBos on November 17, 2017, 09:28:47 AM
BTW, is the trail sandy enough to air down for, or should I not bother?
BTW 2, Jordan et al., I hope to get some basic advice about mild lift and 33"s
Post by: beedee on November 17, 2017, 09:40:40 AM
CraigBos and Mrs. CraigBos will be there. We forgo the caravan and be at the campground before 10. Looking forward to it!
BTW, is the trail sandy enough to air down for, or should I not bother?
BTW 2, Jordan et al., I hope to get some basic advice about mild lift and 33"s
33's will most likely require the "melt mod" and a basic lift could be comprised of 2" spacers up front (which will cause coil bucket contact, unless you get aftermarket UCA's, in which sometimes you still have to trim some of the coil bucket) and either shackles or an Add A Leaf for the rear.
Post by: XterracerX on November 17, 2017, 10:02:18 AM
Mark, it will be great to see you. My house at 8:00am.
Frank! It's definitely that time of year and we will be there (3 total).
Post by: knightrider on November 17, 2017, 10:03:08 AM
Plenty of time to chat and check out other rigs tomorrow.
Post by: zaphos on November 17, 2017, 11:22:39 AM
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Post by: Jayrat on November 17, 2017, 07:03:39 PM
We are planning on coming but just for a day trip. This will be a good shake down run for all my recent mods although i’ll need to find some rougher terrain to test the skidplate/ sliders/ etc.We might find something to get in our way if we look??
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Post by: Celt on November 17, 2017, 09:54:16 PM
Hey Frank , got mine ready
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Niiiiice!
Post by: EJsarus on November 18, 2017, 06:59:19 AM
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Post by: Jayrat on November 19, 2017, 06:50:42 PM
and Jordan for the Ice cream O0
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