Post by: Ghost65 on July 01, 2016, 08:30:38 AM
1) Meet time is 9:30 am at the intersection of Vale Drive and Burns Canyon Road in the community of Baldwin Lake (linky to map: here (https://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2%B016'46.3%22N+116%C2%B047'46.3%22W/@34.279521,-116.7983877,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d34.279521!4d-116.796199))
2) Trip is 2 wheel drive friendly, family friendly, and stock friendly
3) Be sure you're gassed up and full of breakfast by the time you hit the meet spot. The meeting place is in the heart of a residential neighborhood, so we need to be quiet and respectful. The plan for this spot is to quickly come together as a group, air down our tires and hit the trail.
4) The group will run down the mountain toward Pioneertown. There will be a potluck style picnic/bbq at the end of the trail, and most of the group will hang out in this spot for a few hours to socialize and mingle. Many will also spend time "playing around" in the area - there will be fun little short trails that you can test your skills on, or get cool photos of each other.
5) The end of the trail activities with these SCXF group runs tend to be very relaxed. Some people will hang out all day, some will depart at the end of the trail run to get home at a decent hour, and no one will care either way. Remember that the experience and skill levels among everyone on this run vary widely, from newbie all the way up to seasoned veteran trailblazers. Just show up with a good attitude and be ready to have some fun! Maybe you'll get an opportunity to learn something new, or maybe you'll get an opportunity to teach someone else something new. :)
6) Please post if you're "In" for this trip, and if you plan to participate in the potluck. It'll help us give an accurate list over to SCXF before the trip, so everyone knows what to expect. Some folks are also planning to camp in the Big Bear area on Saturday night, and I've tried to capture that info below:
Attendees:
1) RikRong - In for the Sunday run. Camping Fri/Sat nights at Hanna Flat with SCUBA_Dale)
2)
3) knightrider - In for the Sunday run. Camping Fri/Sat nights with stevec
4) steve c - In for the Sunday run. Camping Fri/Sat nights with knightrider
5) SCUBA_Dale - In for the Sunday run. Camping Fri/Sat night at Hanna Flat with RikRong
6) lutsie - In for the Sunday run. Camping Fri/Sat night at Hanna Flat
7) sdcaKLR - In for the Sunday run. Camping Saturday night (I think?)
8) xterrakid1966 - In for the Sunday run.
9) Off-roadNovice - In for the Sunday run.
10) glamisdude72000 - In for the Sunday run. Camping somewhere around Big Bear on Saturday night.
11) beedee - In for the Sunday run. Not sure if camping?
12) fourxfunk - In for the Sunday run
13) CAwoody - In for the Sunday run
14) JCX - In for the Sunday run (already posted on FB)
15) Edwin562
16) Xterra13
17) SyK0
OP by Ghost65:
I am NOT coordinating this! ;)
Just trying to broker another cool Meet N Greet with a group of like minded off roaders/Nissan owners.
You will have to visit Facebook for the 411 here: Bookface Linky (https://www.facebook.com/events/1273718659313171/)
I have been chatting with Jon Nguyen/TheSeXterra who heads up SCXF, and after a LOT of back and forth PM'ing/messaging/missed-messaging he threw up a poll over on Facebook (their club portal for everything Xterra/Frontier) to get the word out.
Everyone voted for 2N02 and a little AAT love (which is GREAT, thanks in advance everyone) and the date of Sunday July 31st.
If I am not scheduled at work I will make a sincere effort to be there...can anyone else at SCCX make an effor to show and teach some AAT newbies how to groom and love the good ole' 2N02?
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Post by: RikRong on July 01, 2016, 09:00:40 AM
I'm going to shoot you a text.
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Post by: Ghost65 on July 01, 2016, 09:03:10 AM
I'm in, but don't much about the area. Is Jon okay with us taking everyone's name and hours, or are we only going to use SCCX members?
I'm going to shoot you a PM.
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Yes, all of the AAT hours would be counted and sent to Greg or Ang Cook with SBNF/AAT for SCCX.
It's a win/win really...and thanks for responding/attending Rick!! :)
Post by: Ghost65 on July 01, 2016, 09:07:21 AM
Admin: fixed book of faces link.
***you rock dude***
Post by: knightrider on July 01, 2016, 09:09:38 AM
Post by: Celt on July 01, 2016, 09:13:24 AM
Post by: JFanaselle on July 01, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
Post by: beedee on July 01, 2016, 09:55:21 AM
Post by: knightrider on July 01, 2016, 10:00:29 AM
If I go, I will head up Saturday afternoon and spend the night up there. Otherwise, that is one long ass day of driving.
I was thinking the same thing...
Post by: CAWoody on July 01, 2016, 10:26:35 AM
Post by: Ghost65 on July 01, 2016, 10:32:51 AM
If I go, I will head up Saturday afternoon and spend the night up there. Otherwise, that is one long ass day of driving.
One of our biggest challenges supporting 2N02 from the south land.
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Post by: Ghost65 on July 01, 2016, 10:34:42 AM
I'm 80% "in" for this trip - just need to make sure the wife doesn't already have something else planned for the weekend. I also offered to the SoCal Xterras and Frontiers crew to help keep the cross-post up to date, for those of you here on SCCX who are "faceless in the book of Zucker" (as sdcaKLR says). :D So I'll do my best to post new info here in this thread as it's available. Each event that SCXF has done thus far has had between 15 and 20 attendees, so it should be a pretty nice turnout.
Thanks Joe...we appreciate the effort.
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Post by: Sage Bromax on July 01, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
Post by: PainRoller on July 01, 2016, 12:09:56 PM
Post by: Celt on July 01, 2016, 12:15:00 PM
Am I the only one who can't get the FB Linky to work?!?! ???
What is a "FB" ??
Post by: Ghost65 on July 01, 2016, 12:59:54 PM
Am I the only one who can't get the FB Linky to work?!?! ???
Meh....I suck at tech...I thought Jordan fixed it...here's a screen shot...
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An overnighter sounds like a good plan. I will put it on my schedule.
Thanks Tony.
What is a "FB" ??
Full boat.
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Post by: knightrider on July 01, 2016, 01:31:25 PM
non-fancy link:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1273718659313171/
Post by: occupantX on July 01, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
Is the plan to meet up in Big Bear, or follow 2N02 from Pioneer Town....or do I ask, enter via the fun shortcut called Rattlesnake?
Post by: Ghost65 on July 01, 2016, 07:09:42 PM
This faceless zucker may be there, I'm 69.96% sure, will work my way up to 80 :)
Is the plan to meet up in Big Bear, or follow 2N02 from Pioneer Town....or do I ask, enter via the fun shortcut called Rattlesnake?
Lol!
From what I understand (very little
) the meet spot is TBD. The run needs to be 2wd friendly, so some run of the full length of 2N02 is planned. Not sure which direction yet...east to west or vice versa.
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Post by: JFanaselle on July 01, 2016, 08:24:02 PM
Trouble is - the run is planned for Sunday, so the directions wouldn't exactly work for the SD folks that want to camp in Big Bear the night before. Unless you guys wanted to drive down the backside of the mountain into Johnson Valley, only to head back up the mountain before heading back down the mountain to drive home (whew... I got exhausted just typing that). Seems a bit excessive if you're not camping in Big Bear on Sunday night, so starting on the Baldwin Lake side might be the only choice really.
Sure would work out a lot better if this run was planned for Saturday - meet up in Johnson valley with the 2WD group meeting up in Pioneertown, merge the two groups at the official southern trailhead (and have lunch somewhere around there), then camp in Big Bear for the evening before having a delicious Pastrami Hash and Eggs breakfast at the Teddy Bear Cafe on Sunday morning and heading home. :) Dammit... how come I'm always thinking about food!?!
Post by: steve c on July 01, 2016, 09:10:19 PM
My personal thought is that it would be really cool to to have one (much smaller) 4WD group come up through Rattlesnake Canyon, while the remainder of the group comes up from Pioneertown.
Trouble is - the run is planned for Sunday, so the directions wouldn't exactly work for the SD folks that want to camp in Big Bear the night before. Unless you guys wanted to drive down the backside of the mountain into Johnson Valley, only to head back up the mountain before heading back down the mountain to drive home (whew... I got exhausted just typing that). Seems a bit excessive if you're not camping in Big Bear on Sunday night, so starting on the Baldwin Lake side might be the only choice really.
Sure would work out a lot better if this run was planned for Saturday - meet up in Johnson valley with the 2WD group meeting up in Pioneertown, merge the two groups at the official southern trailhead (and have lunch somewhere around there), then camp in Big Bear for the evening before having a delicious Pastrami Hash and Eggs breakfast at the Teddy Bear Cafe on Sunday morning and heading home. :) Dammit... how come I'm always thinking about food!?!
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Jordan told me I'm going.
Camping Saturday night.
Post by: beedee on July 01, 2016, 09:24:34 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on July 01, 2016, 09:31:45 PM
We'll figure it all out as it gets closer, but we sure would have a lot more options if it was a Saturday trip.
Post by: Celt on July 01, 2016, 10:55:44 PM
Sound slike the Sunday date is pretty firm, per one of the posts on the facebook event. So I don't really think it'll work. Unfortunately, it sounds like the best option in that case is to run from top to bottom, unless the Saturday night campers want to make multiple trips up and down the hill.
We'll figure it all out as it gets closer, but we sure would have a lot more options if it was a Saturday trip.
I gotta side with you on this stuff Joe. I have gone up to Big Bear before and set up camp then got up the next day and wheeled and turned around to come home. It's pretty grueling if not sometimes outright dangerous with the exhaustion factor getting in there headed home. I have changed my Big Bear SOP so that when I go wheeling I have that night to get up and head back down the next morning after being rested. It's not difficult on me to get up early and head out if I'm pre-packed and prepped, run the trails then head to camp wherever that may be. Some things people don't always think about is the altitude and dehydration. If you indulge in adult beverages the night before that assists with the dehydration. Add in mental and physical stress running many of those trails. Break downs or waiting at the end of some conga line to get through an obstacle can literally add three or more hours onto your day. The list goes on and on and the last thing I would want to hear is anyone of us got injured due to fatigue. Having a rest night, getting up and having a nice breakfast before heading back is sage advice.
Post by: RBduffer on July 02, 2016, 11:07:35 AM
Post by: Ghost65 on July 05, 2016, 03:19:21 PM
The trail can be run this time west to east with departure and dinner in Yucca Valley...caravan back down the 10/60/215 route or the good ole 74/371/79 route. :)
Post by: JFanaselle on July 13, 2016, 11:30:28 AM
The route will be run from Baldwin Lake to Pioneertown (down the mountain, not up). The official meet time and place is 9:30 am at the Burns Canyon trailhead off of Vale Drive in Baldwin Lake. The plan is to air down and hit the trail from here, so make sure you are gassed up and fed when you arrive here at 9:30 am Tthere are plenty of gas stations and eateries nearby in Big Bear. For those who are unfamiliar with the area, here's a google maps link to the meet spot: https://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2%B016'47.0%22N+116%C2%B047'46.4%22W/@34.2797253,-116.8137286,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d34.279727!4d-116.796219
Something we need to be very aware of (and I've also shared these concerns with the SCXF group on Facebook, as well): The trailhead at Vale Drive is right in the heart of a quiet residential area. There is plenty of room for everyone's rigs along the sides of the road to air down and get the group together, but we want to make sure we're very respectful of the local residents (who are normally very accommodating to the off-road crowd that uses this trail). Those of you who know me, know that I'm about as loud and excitable as anyone can be, so I'm going to work very hard to keep my voice and noise levels down, and I ask all of you to do the same. We also need to make sure we're quick to get aired down and be ready to move on (if you even plan to air down), so that we're not hanging around with a bunch of rigs in these folks' neighborhood for too long. Lastly, this means that punctuation is key - definitely don't be late, and try not to be too early. :)
The group will run down the trail and then stop for a pot-luck style picnic/bbq. Participation in the pot luck is completely optional, but remember that it's bad form to eat others' food if you don't bring something yourself to share with everyone. :) The group will hang out at this spot for a couple hours as everyone eats, socializes, and checks out each other's rigs. The area also promises to be a fun playground to wheel around and take photos, especially for 4WD rigs. I'll see if I can get more details about exactly where we'll be eating as a group. With past SCXF events, the trail run itself is only 2 to 3 hours long and the picnic/social event takes up the remainder of the day. It becomes very relaxed from that point, as some folks stay all day and some depart early to get back home at a decent hour.
Please make sure you post up if you're "in" for this event (and also whether or not you plan to bring a dish for the potluck), so we can give the SCXF folks a good idea of our expected level of participation. I'll add an abbreviated version of this info to the OP, and maintain a sign-up list there as well.
Post by: Sage Bromax on July 13, 2016, 11:45:19 AM
Post by: beedee on July 13, 2016, 12:15:02 PM
Thanks for the updates.
I know we don't know the exact picnic spot yet, but how many miles is the trail from the Vale Drive entrance to PioneerTown? I have done only about 5 miles as an out and back (my friend lives right off of Vale drive).
Post by: RikRong on July 13, 2016, 12:18:53 PM
Post by: Sage Bromax on July 13, 2016, 12:23:42 PM
Beedee - straight line distance plotted from Google Earth is about 19 miles one way. Much of it is straight, but there are some curvy sections too. I would guess it is no more than 30 miles one way.
Post by: JFanaselle on July 13, 2016, 05:03:33 PM
Yo Joe,
Thanks for the updates.
I know we don't know the exact picnic spot yet, but how many miles is the trail from the Vale Drive entrance to PioneerTown? I have done only about 5 miles as an out and back (my friend lives right off of Vale drive).
It's about 24 miles of dirt road from Vale Drive to Pioneertown. The last 7-ish miles of the drive are technically private property, and the speed limit is posted as 15 mph. All in all, it takes about 90 mins to run the full road alone, I'd give it 2.5 - 3 hours with a group this size (multiple bathroom breaks, etc).
My suggestion for lunch is the BLM area just outside the forest boundary along Viscera Springs Road. The location is here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2%B015'32.3%22N+116%C2%B039'03.4%22W/@34.25898,-116.6520253,315m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d34.25898!4d-116.650931
It's a large area with a few fun roads and trails that zip around and connect with one another. The spot where I dropped the pin specifically has a large hill that 4x4 rigs can climb with ease. It's a very fun, but very easy obstacle, even for inexperienced wheelers. The area is mostly Joshua trees, so a large group would be a bit spread out around the trees. There's actually a PERFECT lunch spot just a short distance to the northwest of the dropped pin that I'm having a hard time locating on the map at the moment (especially since the areal shots are full of snow), but I can find it pretty easily in person. We've eaten lunch out there a few times. Here's some shots:
The hill I was talking about:
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And going down the other side (the 3 wheel motion was done intentionally):
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Some trails in the area:
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(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee234/jfanaselle/CANVAZ%2015/26.jpg)
As you can see, there are plenty of spaces to spread out a bunch of rigs and have a large lunch. Unfortunately, the Joshua trees don't provide much shade. Here's the "perfect" lunch spot we discovered last time out there. If we got creative and parked rigs around and outside the space, we might be able to fit just the people/grills/food tables/chairs in the shade area:
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If we prioritized time a little, we could easily be to the lunch spot by noon to start setting up. We'd pass through most of the area to "play" on the way to the exact lunch spot, so everyone would get a good idea of where they can play around. There are some roads that lead to private property and ranches, and the folks out there don't take too lightly to trespassing. But those roads and property boundaries are very clearly marked, so you'd almost have to trespass on purpose.
Post by: RikRong on July 13, 2016, 06:01:22 PM
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Post by: Ghost65 on July 13, 2016, 07:34:00 PM
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Post by: Sage Bromax on July 13, 2016, 10:45:29 PM
Post by: Sage Bromax on July 14, 2016, 06:12:27 AM
Look at Vaughn Springs, which is about 500 yds NW of your pin. Also, use the time scroll on Google Earth to pick images that don't have snow.
Lat 34.259518°, Long -116.660148°
Post by: RBduffer on July 14, 2016, 11:02:19 AM
Nice work getting everything organized, thanks.
Post by: JFanaselle on July 14, 2016, 03:00:35 PM
Do we want cross-post the suggestion for using this spot?
Yes, I think we should. Especially since Brett said they don't have a spot nailed down yet. Would you mind handling that? I'm not the best expert at the book of faces and sometimes my posts in group events don't work right for some reason. :o
Let them know that I don't mind leading the group back to the spot. I'm going to scout it out on Monday when we go recover the Oldsmobile, so I'll have a better idea of exactly where we need to end up.
Joe,
Look at Vaughn Springs, which is about 500 yds NW of your pin. Also, use the time scroll on Google Earth to pick images that don't have snow.
Lat 34.259518°, Long -116.660148°
Good call Tony (and great advice about using the time scroll, didn't know about it!). This is pretty darn close to the spot we all ate on the Canvaz run. I think we were just a bit further off of Viscera Springs road, but it's all in the same general area. I'll check this spot out on Monday. It looks bigger, but doesn't look like it has much shade. I could care less, because I bring my own shade 8) but with a group this size and kids and what not, it's probably a good idea to try and find some.
Hey Joe, that fifth photo is where we had my wedding reception lol
Indeed it is! I remember it all too well. If that area is good enough for your wedding reception, then it's good enough for a group picnic. :)
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Post by: RikRong on July 14, 2016, 03:39:59 PM
Yes, I think we should. Especially since Brett said they don't have a spot nailed down yet. Would you mind handling that? I'm not the best expert at the book of faces and sometimes my posts in group events don't work right for some reason. :oWill do, I'll post over there and see what they think. I agree that it's a good spot to spread out, get some shade, and wheel if we want.
Let them know that I don't mind leading the group back to the spot. I'm going to scout it out on Monday when we go recover the Oldsmobile, so I'll have a better idea of exactly where we need to end up.
edit: post added, I also added a comment in there about tracking hours for AAT. I can't cut and paste links into FB on my work computer for some reason. Joe, if you see the post, can you add a link to the map? I've also tried tagging you in the post, FB does not work right at all on this computer.
Post by: occupantX on July 14, 2016, 09:16:59 PM
My vote is for Saturday going up RattleSnake to 2N02, then camping around 2N02 and wait for the Sunday caravan. Good camping spots up Tip Top Mountain.
Post by: xterrakid1966 on July 16, 2016, 03:45:22 PM
Post by: Off-roadNovice on July 17, 2016, 08:14:41 PM
Post by: glamisdude72000 on July 20, 2016, 09:19:45 AM
Post by: Ghost65 on July 20, 2016, 09:21:55 AM
Myself and girlfriend will be there, with the possibility of friend in a 2wd Frontier joining us. We plan on camping Saturday night in BB somewhere. Not sure what we are bringing to the potluck yet. We are also bringing mountain bikes with the intention of getting a ride in after the run. Would anybody like to join us? Or know of any good trails near where the run ends? Most of my BB riding experience has been on the mountain in the bike park area, not familiar with other trails in the area.
Chris...checkout Skyline Trail for MTB.
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Post by: beedee on July 20, 2016, 09:49:50 AM
Myself and girlfriend will be there, with the possibility of friend in a 2wd Frontier joining us. We plan on camping Saturday night in BB somewhere. Not sure what we are bringing to the potluck yet. We are also bringing mountain bikes with the intention of getting a ride in after the run. Would anybody like to join us? Or know of any good trails near where the run ends? Most of my BB riding experience has been on the mountain in the bike park area, not familiar with other trails in the area.
This run ends in the desert, so you would have to backtrack up 2N02 to get back to Big Bear proper.
As Ghost said, Skyline is a very scenic trail and worth checking out. Not too technical at all.
Post by: knightrider on July 20, 2016, 10:48:40 AM
Myself and girlfriend will be there, with the possibility of friend in a 2wd Frontier joining us. We plan on camping Saturday night in BB somewhere. Not sure what we are bringing to the potluck yet. We are also bringing mountain bikes with the intention of getting a ride in after the run. Would anybody like to join us? Or know of any good trails near where the run ends? Most of my BB riding experience has been on the mountain in the bike park area, not familiar with other trails in the area.
I was planning on camping out and doing some mountain biking on saturday, then heading home after the trail run on sunday. I will more than likely just be camping out somewhere along one of the forest roads near skyline dr. or somewhere closer to 2n02.
Not much reason to grab a yellow post if you can't have fires and I'm not big on campgrounds(they seem to all be full).
Post by: glamisdude72000 on July 20, 2016, 12:16:57 PM
Post by: glamisdude72000 on July 22, 2016, 02:58:31 PM
http://americanadventurist.com/forum/threads/july-monthly-trail-run-sunday-07-31-pioneer-to-big-bear.4001/
^Also a great group to wheel with if you have not had the pleasure.
Post by: RikRong on July 22, 2016, 04:09:00 PM
Might run into some traffic out there in the morning:Can you post in there? If so, can you have him share the HAM frequency with us? It would be nice to have it to de-conflict traffic on trail.
http://americanadventurist.com/forum/threads/july-monthly-trail-run-sunday-07-31-pioneer-to-big-bear.4001/
^Also a great group to wheel with if you have not had the pleasure.
Post by: fourxfunk on July 22, 2016, 08:27:10 PM
Post by: knightrider on July 22, 2016, 11:23:51 PM
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Post by: RikRong on July 23, 2016, 07:28:14 AM
I've already posted and talked with the trail leader.Awesome. Thank you.
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Post by: EJsarus on July 23, 2016, 10:55:34 PM
Post by: RikRong on July 24, 2016, 10:22:59 AM
trying to convince myself n my wife to try this trip. only thing keeping me back is the comfort of my 6m old son. Will keep you guys informed.Edwin, the main trail should be low impact and 2WD friendly. If you wanted to come up a little early, we could even swap those shocks right on the spot.
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Post by: fourxfunk on July 24, 2016, 12:35:58 PM
trying to convince myself n my wife to try this trip. only thing keeping me back is the comfort of my 6m old son. Will keep you guys informed.You guys should come but I know what you mean, we've got a 3 month old who will be staying home with mama this time around but I'll be bringing my 3 year old.
Post by: lutsie on July 24, 2016, 03:49:40 PM
How long is the run?(trying to figure out if we will be attending the lunch)
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Post by: JFanaselle on July 24, 2016, 06:10:54 PM
From the lunch spot, it will take about another 60 mins to get down to Hwy 62 in Yucca Valley (going through Pioneertown), and about another 90-ish minutes from there to get into the Temecula area (so roughly 2 hours back to Esco for you). If it helps, my plan is to hang out around the lunch spot for a couple hours and depart for home no later than 3:00 pm. That would put me home around 5:30 in Murrieta.
Post by: lutsie on July 24, 2016, 06:23:26 PM
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Post by: beedee on July 24, 2016, 07:34:17 PM
I'm also debating on bringing the wife and our 1 year old daughter.
How hard would it be to find the main highway from the lunch spot? I have a hockey game that night at 7:05pm. If I skip the potluck/lunch, would I have trouble navigating the rest of the trail to the next main highway?
My game is in Cerritos, right off the 91 & 605.
Post by: RikRong on July 24, 2016, 07:51:52 PM
Looks like I will be attending with the wife and kids. Driving up late Friday and camping in Hanna flats.Dale and I are also staying in Hanna Flat, starting Friday night. Look for us, we'll have to get together.
How long is the run?(trying to figure out if we will be attending the lunch)
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Post by: Ghost65 on July 24, 2016, 07:55:16 PM
There is no definitive time, but it'll probably take a few hours to get from the trailhead to the lunch spot. My guess (and hope) is that everyone is aired down and on the move by about 10:00 am. If we move at a nice slow pace with a couple stops, we should be at the lunch spot around 12:30-ish (if we're having lunch where I am recommending). If we use my recommended spot, then anyone in the group can do as little or as much exploring or wheeling around that area as they want, or you can simply hang out with the group and enjoy food. The trails are all very simple with no major obstacles, but there are plenty of them zigging and sagging through the area to check out.
From the lunch spot, it will take about another 60 mins to get down to Hwy 62 in Yucca Valley (going through Pioneertown), and about another 90-ish minutes from there to get into the Temecula area (so roughly 2 hours back to Esco for you). If it helps, my plan is to hang out around the lunch spot for a couple hours and depart for home no later than 3:00 pm. That would put me home around 5:30 in Murrieta.
Joe and I discussed the timeline and several lunch spot options depending on the group size and how everyone moves down the trail. He has done an excellent job mapping out Plan's A through at least G.
The biggest challenge is knowing "exactly" or even "approximately" how many folks will show up at the TH, and then "guess-timating" how a big group moves through a trail like this.
People pace their trail driving differently, stopping for pictures of nature, bio breaks, stopping for pictures of obstacles, and finally...stopping for pictures of the group. :D
It is going to be a great day, and truly sorry I will be missing this run (w-o-r-k).
Thanks to Joe, Jordan, Steve, Tony, and Rick for attending and helping out. :)
Post by: JFanaselle on July 24, 2016, 11:24:42 PM
Post by: lutsie on July 25, 2016, 09:46:11 AM
Dale and I are also staying in Hanna Flat, starting Friday night. Look for us, we'll have to get together.
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Sounds good. We will be rolling in at 2000ish; set up , kids to bed, BEERS you both are welcome to come by for one.
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Post by: EJsarus on July 25, 2016, 09:54:19 AM
hint hint... since its going to be hot, I will be bring large bowl of fresh cut fruit to cool down.
Edwin, the main trail should be low impact and 2WD friendly. If you wanted to come up a little early, we could even swap those shocks right on the spot.Well things have changed and looks like my wife will sit this one out with my son, so she will let me explore on my own to get first hand experience on how the trail is. That way if I report back with the thumbs up, we might take a trip on our own or with a few for her n my son to enjoy. The shock installation would be a good idea... Just take them and we will go from there.
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You guys should come but I know what you mean, we've got a 3 month old who will be staying home with mama this time around but I'll be bringing my 3 year old.
I hear you, as stated above to Rick's reply, My wife n son will sit this one out.
Post by: occupantX on July 25, 2016, 09:32:31 PM
Post by: knightrider on July 25, 2016, 10:44:18 PM
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Post by: JFanaselle on July 26, 2016, 08:48:36 AM
If you guys want to start a thread for the Friday/Saturday festivities, or if someone wants to maintain a list right here in this thread, please go ahead. :)
Post by: JFanaselle on July 26, 2016, 09:04:56 AM
Post by: fourxfunk on July 26, 2016, 09:59:56 AM
Post by: CAWoody on July 27, 2016, 08:14:09 AM
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Post by: glamisdude72000 on July 28, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
Post by: JFanaselle on July 28, 2016, 12:04:17 PM
Joe, Put me down for being there on Sunday. Looks like a big crowd for this one.
You've been added
Something has come up and I won't be able to make this one. :'(
You've been crossed off, and you will be missed sir.
"Cross him off then."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpZ3LODBK7E
Please count us in for Sunday Joe. We are also included in the FB group. Thanks
Added, thanks!
Post by: EJsarus on July 28, 2016, 06:49:29 PM
Post by: Xterra13 on July 29, 2016, 01:56:31 PM
I've been a lurker here for a couple of years. Have always wanted to go on a run with you all that was on the easier side since my X is stock and I'm a noob. This one seems like a perfect intro for me, and I'm FINALLY free on a weekend that there is a run. Is it too late to sign up for this run?
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Post by: CAWoody on July 29, 2016, 02:09:29 PM
Hi all.
I've been a lurker here for a couple of years. Have always wanted to go on a run with you all that was on the easier side since my X is stock and I'm a noob. This one seems like a perfect intro for me, and I'm FINALLY free on a weekend that there is a run. Is it too late to sign up for this run?
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Just by speaking up your signed in. We'll be sure to keep an eye out for at the meeting spot.
Post by: Xterra13 on July 29, 2016, 04:10:45 PM
Do I need a radio for this run? If so, can you guys give me some ideas on a decent one I can pick up quickly?
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Post by: Ghost65 on July 29, 2016, 05:01:04 PM
Awesome! I'm also in the Facebook group so I've let Jon know there as well. I referred him over to this forum when he first created it. Thought you all would get along great. :-)
Do I need a radio for this run? If so, can you guys give me some ideas on a decent one I can pick up quickly?
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You should have a CB...it really helps with trail comms.
Unless you have Amazon Prime, you're prolly going to need to find a local CB retailer...Frys, or 4 Wheel Parts?
Post by: beedee on July 29, 2016, 05:19:26 PM
You should have a CB...it really helps with trail comms.
Unless you have Amazon Prime, you're prolly going to need to find a local CB retailer...Frys, or 4 Wheel Parts?
I got my Cobra 19 DX lV at Frys.
Post by: Jayrat on July 29, 2016, 10:04:35 PM
Awesome! I'm also in the Facebook group so I've let Jon know there as well. I referred him over to this forum when he first created it. Thought you all would get along great. :-)Walmart also carries Cobra CB and the Antenna
Do I need a radio for this run? If so, can you guys give me some ideas on a decent one I can pick up quickly?
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Post by: SyK0 on July 29, 2016, 10:51:18 PM
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Post by: JFanaselle on July 30, 2016, 08:33:42 AM
Also, I'm sad to state that I will miss this run after all, due to a work obligation that has come up that I cannot get out of. I've done everything I can to get out of the obligation, but it's just not happening :( Have a good time out there everyone, and please take lots of photos so I know what I missed!
Post by: EJsarus on July 30, 2016, 09:48:46 AM
Post by: Ghost65 on July 30, 2016, 12:54:52 PM
OP has been updated with new attendees.
Also, I'm sad to state that I will miss this run after all, due to a work obligation that has come up that I cannot get out of. I've done everything I can to get out of the obligation, but it's just not happening :( Have a good time out there everyone, and please take lots of photos so I know what I missed!
Thanks for all your efforts Joe...much appreciated.
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Post by: lutsie on July 30, 2016, 02:53:43 PM
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Post by: EJsarus on July 30, 2016, 07:25:05 PM
I really want one.
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Post by: RikRong on August 01, 2016, 04:02:04 AM
So... That was awesome! Thanks again to the pit crew that helped me get my punctured tire swapped out, you jumped right in and got me rolling again. It was fun finally getting the X a little dirty. Now to find some real tires... and a hi-lift... and a...Hey, we've all been there at some point. I saw the patch. Did a rock puncture it or was it something else?
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Post by: knightrider on August 01, 2016, 07:57:24 AM
Would this trip be enough to get a SCCX decal?
I really want one.
Sorry Edwin, I ment to bring some decals but I forgot to ask the holder of said decals if I could have some to bring up to the run for people, my bad.
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Post by: Ghost65 on August 01, 2016, 10:14:01 AM
Sorry Edwin, I ment to bring some decals but I forgot to ask the holder of said decals if I could have some to bring up to the run for people, my bad.
I will get some to you, Joe, and Randy.
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Post by: EJsarus on August 01, 2016, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: fourxfunk on August 01, 2016, 11:10:49 AM
Post by: Celt on August 01, 2016, 11:23:50 AM
Post by: CAWoody on August 01, 2016, 11:29:05 AM
Post by: Celt on August 01, 2016, 01:04:21 PM
I made a few stops to pick up some construction debris and a few beer cans. I guess you can put me down for 10 hours.
Got it down but can you please post it over in the AAT hour thread. I want to be able to track all of that information for end of year totals and who has done what to be able to give everyone credit for the hard work they have been doing!
Post by: RBduffer on August 01, 2016, 03:58:14 PM
Hey Rick, did that half-an-Olds have an engine still in it?
I can't believe the car is still there!
Post by: knightrider on August 01, 2016, 04:03:48 PM
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Post by: Celt on August 01, 2016, 04:46:37 PM
Yep still had the engine. i was surprised to see it as well, it made for a good landmark for directions
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Where are all the resident tweekers when you need them? That thing should be like a gold mine in their eyes.
Post by: lutsie on August 01, 2016, 05:57:55 PM
Yep still had the engine. i was surprised to see it as well, it made for a good landmark for directionsIt was an excellent landmark. Maybe we should make a nice sign and name it half-an-olds fork
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Post by: RikRong on August 01, 2016, 07:45:06 PM
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Post by: knightrider on August 02, 2016, 07:44:11 AM
It is outside of the National forest but no reason we can't go there and clean up that area.
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Post by: RikRong on August 02, 2016, 03:31:02 PM
No 2n02 becomes burns canyon rd where the Olds was dumped, the left we took is viscera springs Rd.Ah gotcha, I'm thinking a clean up is needed, but I think we'd need a truck or something to haul all of that out.
It is outside of the National forest but no reason we can't go there and clean up that area.
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Post by: SCUBA_Dale on August 02, 2016, 09:08:46 PM
Ah gotcha, I'm thinking a clean up is needed, but I think we'd need a truck or something to haul all of that out.
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Think a open 5x8 U-Haul trailer could make it back there, from the way we left? That might be big enough to get that crap out of there....
Post by: fourxfunk on August 02, 2016, 10:41:47 PM
Hey, we've all been there at some point. I saw the patch. Did a rock puncture it or was it something else?I not sure what got it but it left a .75" gash right in the middle of the tire. It's definitely leaking still so I'm going to have America's Tire give it the once over. On a related note I scored a set of used Staun deflators on Ebay. Live and learn.
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Post by: JFanaselle on August 02, 2016, 11:19:09 PM
As for the area off of Viscera Springs Road - that's all BLM land. In the past, the BLM has been receptive to organized cleanups in other areas, and has provided roll-off bins for garbage and rangers for safety and to keep unwanted folks out of the area while it's clenaed up (just look on CalGuns - they do it all the time).
If someone reaches out to the local BLM field office (Palm Springs, I think?), they might be willing to go to that lenght as well. I'm confident we could fill up a 40' roll off. I found two or three different shooting spots back there when my little bro and I were exploring a few weeks ago, and those few spots alone had enough junk to do it.
Anyway, this looks like an amazing trip and I'm sorry I had to bail at the last minute everyone. Stupid work. :(
Post by: RikRong on August 03, 2016, 08:33:22 PM
I not sure what got it but it left a .75" gash right in the middle of the tire. It's definitely leaking still so I'm going to have America's Tire give it the once over. On a related note I scored a set of used Staun deflators on Ebay. Live and learn.Sounds like a rock might've got to it, but I bet they'll be able to patch it.
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Post by: SyK0 on August 04, 2016, 03:37:26 PM
Up front is James flexing he is (in the picture) with my rig in the back
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Next is Tim flexing on this rock! There's a pretty sweet video I will upload if I can with Tim going through a nice rock garden type area.
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Post by: EJsarus on August 06, 2016, 02:40:55 PM
https://youtu.be/VxfzQazqZeA
Post by: JCX on August 06, 2016, 03:39:42 PM
Post by: fourxfunk on August 06, 2016, 03:51:47 PM
Post by: EJsarus on August 06, 2016, 04:45:40 PM
Nice video. I have a lot of pictures also, but, my files are too big to upload.Im sure there is a program to downsize multiple pictures at once.
Edwin, that was sweet man!
thanks! there is definitely footage of you following me.
Post by: SyK0 on August 06, 2016, 05:10:37 PM
Post by: EJsarus on August 06, 2016, 06:03:55 PM
Cool video Edwin. You managed to get a snap shot of James and myself standing at the top during lunch break 8)
I stole that picture from the FB group. lulz
Post by: CAWoody on August 08, 2016, 09:46:44 PM
The three us decided to go back up into Big Bear while the rest split to Rattlesnake Canyon or Pioneer Town. We were hoping to get into the rain, but no such luck, it never reached the ground. We took 2N02 back up until we ran into 2N61Y. A black Diamond Trail that none of us had ever been on. What a great trail, beautiful scenery and a few fun littel rock climbs. Here are a few picture I took. I'm also including a link to a couple of videos i shot of the Guys rigs.
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Post by: SyK0 on August 09, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
Post by: CAWoody on August 09, 2016, 05:37:37 PM
Post by: RikRong on August 09, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
Feel free to copy them off the photobucket page if you want a copy.
Sweet pics you got of us Tim! That was indeed a fun trailI'm ditching the wife next time so I can hit Rattlesnake with you all (don't tell her I said that).
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