Post by: JFanaselle on June 22, 2016, 06:13:22 AM
The plan is to meet up at the Fallbrook Cafe at 8:00 am for breakfast and hit the road at 9:00 am. It's located at 739 E. Mission Road, Fallbrook 92028. There is a Shell gas station across the street where we can top off the tanks as well.
If the Wildomar OHV area is open, then the run should take about 3 to 4 hours, depending on how much time we want to play around. The OHV area could be pretty crowded as well, since it's a holiday weekend, but we'll deal with that when we get there. The OHV area does require a forest adventure pass, as does stopping to recreate pretty much anywhere along the route within the forest. You can pick up a Forest Adventure pass at many local retailers, or you can always just risk it. I've never seen a ranger out and about checking for them, but remember, it is a holiday weekend and this could change things. I'm not sure what the fine is for not having one... maybe someone else knows and can chime in?
More information on the OHV park can be found here: http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/cleveland/recarea/?recid=47680
More information on Forest Adventure passes can be found here: http://www.fs.usda.gov/main/cleveland/passes-permits/recreation
The run will end at Hell's Kitchen restaurant, which is located at 32685 Ortega Highway. We can have lunch here, or just a "pop" (as RBDuffer says). From there, you can either take Highway 74 west into OC and catch I-5 to get home, or you can drop down into Lake Elsinore and catch I-15. If anyone wants to, you can also head out from here and run North Main Divide Road up to Santiago Peak, which would consume your afternoon but is also a very fun drive. As of right now, the Forest Service is listing North Main Divide Road as open, but this could change if the fire danger levels go up.
This run is family friendly, stock friendly, 2 wheel drive friendly, and requires nothing more than basic trail supplies and a good attitude in a group setting. Please have at least CB coms, and bring whatever you need in terms of snacks/food/water to spend a half day or full day out on the trails. I would highly recommend bringing supplies to have lunch on the trail as well, just in case the restaurant isn't open or we get caught up at the OHV park for longer than expected and lunch time sneaks up on us. Don't forget the sunblock if you're prone to burning like me. If you plan to air your tires down for comfort, please have a plan/be prepared to air them back up. There is not a gas station or other service station in El Cariso, and I wouldn't recommend driving Ortega Highway on aired down tires. If you decide to play around in the OHV park, there are many little short trails of varying difficulty that may or may not require 4 wheel drive, or mods like a lift, sliders or skid plates.
Please post up if you're planning to attend this run, and also send me a PM with your phone number (if I don't already have it) so we can be in touch on the morning of, just in case you have to back out at the last minute or something.
Post by: JFanaselle on June 22, 2016, 06:13:30 AM
In for sure:
1) RBDuffer
2) JFanaselle +2
3) Riz98 +3
4) Riz98's Jeep Buddy
5) Sage Bromax (maybe +1)
6) lutsie +3
7) Celt
8) RikRong + wife
9) PainRoller & FixItGuy
10) SCUBA_Dale +1
11) ghenderson21
12) sdcaKLR
13) MorganKC1
14) JCX +3
15) Fire Ninja +2
16) Kjswa
17) Celt family 2nd vehicle
18) Pyrofox79
Tentative:
1) steve c - a solid "maybe"
Post by: valentin36 on June 22, 2016, 07:24:22 AM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on June 22, 2016, 08:22:54 AM
Post by: EJsarus on June 22, 2016, 09:08:51 AM
Post by: beedee on June 22, 2016, 09:29:50 AM
Our wonderful BOD RBDuffer has graciously volunteered to show us the "secret route" from Fallbrook to the El Cariso area at the top of Ortega Highway. 4th of July weekend works good since it's a 3 day weekend for most, and the holiday isn't actually until Monday this year. I picked Sunday with the hope that things won't be as busy in the morning, but we can move it to Saturday if there's an overwhelming majority that want to attend and can't make Sunday.
The plan is to meet up at the Fallbrook Cafe at 8:00 am for breakfast and hit the road at 9:00 am. It's located at 739 E. Mission Road, Fallbrook 92028. There is a Shell gas station across the street where we can top off the tanks as well.
If the Wildomar OHV area is open, then the run should take about 3 to 4 hours, depending on how much time we want to play around. The OHV area could be pretty crowded as well, since it's a holiday weekend, but we'll deal with that when we get there. The OHV area does require a forest adventure pass, as does stopping to recreate pretty much anywhere along the route within the forest. You can pick up a Forest Adventure pass at many local retailers, or you can always just risk it. I've never seen a ranger out and about checking for them, but remember, it is a holiday weekend and this could change things. I'm not sure what the fine is for not having one... maybe someone else knows and can chime in?
More information on the OHV park can be found here: http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/cleveland/recarea/?recid=47680
More information on Forest Adventure passes can be found here: http://www.fs.usda.gov/main/cleveland/passes-permits/recreation
The run will end at Hell's Kitchen restaurant, which is located at 32685 Ortega Highway. We can have lunch here, or just a "pop" (as RBDuffer says). From there, you can either take Highway 74 west into OC and catch I-5 to get home, or you can drop down into Lake Elsinore and catch I-15. If anyone wants to, you can also head out from here and run North Main Divide Road up to Santiago Peak, which would consume your afternoon but is also a very fun drive. As of right now, the Forest Service is listing North Main Divide Road as open, but this could change if the fire danger levels go up.
This run is family friendly, stock friendly, 2 wheel drive friendly, and requires nothing more than basic trail supplies and a good attitude in a group setting. Please have at least CB coms, and bring whatever you need in terms of snacks/food/water to spend a half day or full day out on the trails. I would highly recommend bringing supplies to have lunch on the trail as well, just in case the restaurant isn't open or we get caught up at the OHV park for longer than expected and lunch time sneaks up on us. Don't forget the sunblock if you're prone to burning like me. If you plan to air your tires down for comfort, please have a plan/be prepared to air them back up. There is not a gas station or other service station in El Cariso, and I wouldn't recommend driving Ortega Highway on aired down tires. If you decide to play around in the OHV park, there are many little short trails of varying difficulty that may or may not require 4 wheel drive, or mods like a lift, sliders or skid plates.
Please post up if you're planning to attend this run, and also send me a PM with your phone number (if I don't already have it) so we can be in touch on the morning of, just in case you have to back out at the last minute or something.
We never bought them when we would park in the CNF for mt. biking, once in awhile we got a "ticket". All you do is mail in the $5 and you are good. The topic is actually a hot debate, many people say the program is a crock of you know what and the funds don't go where they are suppose to or what not, and there are some questions as to the legality of it. Some of my friends would never pay the fine and nothing happened. YMMV.
Post by: RBduffer on June 22, 2016, 09:47:47 AM
I've heard the same thing. I will not be sporting a pass. But each person must decide the risk for themselves.
Thanks for the info. And Joe, thanks for the OP.
Post by: Jayrat on June 22, 2016, 11:23:07 AM
Post by: JFanaselle on June 22, 2016, 11:30:03 AM
Hopefully i get my x back from the shop before this run so i can go!
I put you down as tentative. Please let me know if you can make it or not as we get closer.
We never bought them when we would park in the CNF for mt. biking, once in awhile we got a "ticket". All you do is mail in the $5 and you are good. The topic is actually a hot debate, many people say the program is a crock of you know what and the funds don't go where they are suppose to or what not, and there are some questions as to the legality of it. Some of my friends would never pay the fine and nothing happened. YMMV.
Good to know about the fine situation. As for the validity/legality of the program - I've followed some of the debate on that topic. I've always kind of looked at it like this - I love to recreate in the forest, and the forest service programs are grossly underfunded. Anything that helps them help me have a good time on public lands is worth paying a few bucks a year for, so I get a new annual adventure pass every December. I look at it like a $30 donation to the forest service every year. Fees like this are always a hot-button issue, especially when it comes down to how the money is being used and accounted for, and I totally get it. You should have seen the local uproar when the fire department started charging an annual $50 "subscription fee" for paramedic services within my city. There were lawsuits and all kinds of protest. But in the end, it was determined to be legal - you don't have to pay it each year, but you pay a significantly higher amount (like $460) if you don't have the subscription and you have an emergency that requires care from a paramedic. But it was the only way the city could afford to keep a medic on each fire engine, otherwise they would have had to lay people off.
Thanks for the info. And Joe, thanks for the OP.
No, thank YOU for leading us on the trails for this trip! :)
Jayrat + 1 maybe 2
Sweet! Got you listed. See you there! :)
Post by: RikRong on June 22, 2016, 12:13:17 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on June 22, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
I'll talk to the wife about this, right now put me down as tentative. I'll cancel the High Desert Breakfast and roll it into this.
Totally didn't even realize I was scheduling this on the same day as the High Desert Breakfast meet up! Very sorry Rick.
However, I know my wife would love it if your wife came along, so please do try and talk her into it. :) Is there anyone else that was planning to come to the High Desert Breakfast that may want to come to this instead? I feel bad that we scheduled this for the same day. :-[
Post by: steve c on June 22, 2016, 01:29:35 PM
Kind of depends what the weekend holds (work wise)
If I do go, I'm going to bring my camping crap. Blue Jay and Falcon campsites are very close to the end of this run and it would be silly not to camp for a night since I'm right there.
With that being said, there probably won't be any sites available because its 4th of July weekend!
Post by: JFanaselle on June 22, 2016, 04:15:37 PM
Post by: FrankB on June 22, 2016, 05:10:45 PM
. . . The OHV area does require a forest adventure pass, as does stopping to recreate pretty much anywhere along the route within the forest. You can pick up a Forest Adventure pass at many local retailers, or you can always just risk it. I've never seen a ranger out and about checking for them, but remember, it is a holiday weekend and this could change things. I'm not sure what the fine is for not having one... maybe someone else knows and can chime in?
More information on the OHV park can be found here: http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/cleveland/recarea/?recid=47680
More information on Forest Adventure passes can be found here: http://www.fs.usda.gov/main/cleveland/passes-permits/recreation
. . .
Just so you know, I'm pretty sure that an America the Beautiful National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass (the $80/year one, unless you are over 65 or meet a few other criteria) covers all Federal lands, and works for this. You can get a hangtag for your window that allows you to display it properly if you are away from the vehicle.
Post by: knightrider on June 22, 2016, 05:44:16 PM
Post by: Celt on June 22, 2016, 06:39:06 PM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on June 22, 2016, 07:12:02 PM
For any reason you guys change it to Saturday (7/2) I would for sure be in. I have to work at Oh my God, O' dark 30 on Monday so it's a big kinda sorta maybe yes right now.
I wouldn't object to a move to Saturday either
Post by: RikRong on June 22, 2016, 07:40:40 PM
Totally didn't even realize I was scheduling this on the same day as the High Desert Breakfast meet up! Very sorry Rick.Oh, the breakfast thing is scheduled for Saturdays, so no conflict. I just would rather push everyone to this, instead of having them come up here where there might just be couple of us. It would be better for everyone to meet more people and branch out a little on this trip. However, I will post in the breakfast thread and steer people to this.
However, I know my wife would love it if your wife came along, so please do try and talk her into it. :) Is there anyone else that was planning to come to the High Desert Breakfast that may want to come to this instead? I feel bad that we scheduled this for the same day. :-[
With that all being said, put us down for a firm yes. Can't wait to meet up with everyone again.
Post by: Ghost65 on June 22, 2016, 08:13:04 PM
With that all being said, put us down for a firm yes. Can't wait to meet up with everyone again.
I can't attend this, as I'm 99% sure I'll be working...but will get your Volcano stove to you for this Rick.
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Post by: fourxfunk on June 22, 2016, 08:32:13 PM
Post by: Jayrat on June 22, 2016, 08:45:27 PM
I am an Ordained Minister
I can Perform a CB Sunday Service
Post by: Riz98 on June 22, 2016, 09:06:59 PM
Post by: Celt on June 22, 2016, 09:08:45 PM
For those of you who are worried about missing Church on Sunday ,
I am an Ordained Minister
I can Perform a CB Sunday Service
Yay, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no rocks for I have lockers and 35's. Mine RCV axles and winch, they shall comfort me. I shall tread upon the black diamonds and the obstacles and fear not all the days of my life. I shall see Chinese trailers broken down at my left and to my right shall be those unbelievers but they shall not come near me. I shall fear not.........
Post by: RikRong on June 22, 2016, 09:50:51 PM
I can't attend this, as I'm 99% sure I'll be working...but will get your Volcano stove to you for this Rick.I wasn't even concerned. Haha I have faith. I'll be around LAX this Saturday evening and Sunday, just in case you might be in the general area. If not, we'll work out another time.
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Post by: Sage Bromax on June 22, 2016, 11:30:47 PM
Post by: lutsie on June 23, 2016, 09:16:30 AM
If any one has a cb to sell (cheap) i am interested.
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Post by: EJsarus on June 23, 2016, 09:28:58 AM
http://www.walmart.com/ip/4642484?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227008391045&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40839655112&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=56872660967&veh=sem
Post by: lutsie on June 23, 2016, 09:36:16 AM
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Post by: EJsarus on June 23, 2016, 10:04:31 AM
Thanks edwin. Do I need anthing else to nake it work? Antenna power cable or will it ship with everything. Sorry for my ignorance.
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for power I suggest one of these and wire it up to your cb.
https://www.amazon.com/RoadPro-RPPS-220-Platinum-3-Pin-Replacement/dp/B001JT97C8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466701392&sr=8-1&keywords=cb+radio+power
I have this antenna
https://www.amazon.com/Cobra-HG-Base-Load-Small-Antenna/dp/B00005N5X1/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466701442&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=cobra+uantenna+cb
from my understanding, this is a basic cb set up.
Post by: lutsie on June 23, 2016, 10:14:42 AM
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Post by: JFanaselle on June 23, 2016, 10:28:07 AM
the adventure pass is only required if you are parking and leaving the vehicle to hike or ride bikes, if you guys are just driving around, you don't need an adventure pass.
That's only partially true. The pass is required for use of the OHV area, and would be required if we decided to stop along the trail for lunch, or to get out of our vehicles and explore an area, or check out a scenic overlook, etc. That being said, it's really not a concern for this trip. We aren't camping or planning to leave vehicles behind for any length of time. I just want to make sure everyone understands the requirement, and the risk (which is very low, it seems). My only concern would be that since it's 4th of July weekend, there could be a ranger or a volunteer posted up at the OHV park requiring that people have one. If that ends up happening, I'm sure said ranger/volunteer would also have them available and you'd simply be able to pay the $5 on the spot.
Put me down for a definite going +3 for the wife and kids.
Got you down sir. Look forward to seeing you out there!
Oh, I am so up for this. I have been out on the fires in east San Diego for the last three days and this is the first chance I have had to check back in. Any day, any time that weekend and I am up for it. May be able to get one of my sons to come along too.
Got you down Tony. See you there!
I will be attending, excited to meet everyone. I will be rolling with the wife and 2 kids.
Great news, got you listed. See you there!
Post by: Ghost65 on June 23, 2016, 10:32:47 AM
For those of you who are worried about missing Church on Sunday ,
I am an Ordained Minister
I can Perform a CB Sunday Service
This made me laugh... :)
So much good stuff (again) in this thread.
Just to clarify, the Adventure Pass is a USFS pass, required while "recreating" out of your vehicle in the National Forests. The annual NP passes (senior rates start @ 62 years young) are for NP access only. We just bought one of these while visiting Arches/Canyonlands and got the full 411 from the rangers there before we plunked down the $80. Good news is that pass works for Death Valley NP and Joshua Tree NP locally, so the value was there.
I agree with Joe...supporting these programs "is the right thing to do", but for this run the A-pass would not be necessary, especially traveling as a group.
Post by: FrankB on June 23, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
. . . Just to clarify, the Adventure Pass is a USFS pass, required while "recreating" out of your vehicle in the National Forests. The annual NP passes (senior rates start @ 62 years young) are for NP access only. We just bought one of these while visiting Arches/Canyonlands and got the full 411 from the rangers there before we plunked down the $80. Good news is that pass works for Death Valley NP and Joshua Tree NP locally, so the value was there.
I agree with Joe...supporting these programs "is the right thing to do", but for this run the A-pass would not be necessary, especially traveling as a group.
Not quite. The America the Beautiful Annual Pass does in fact take the place of the Adventure Pass. Use the hang tag, and according to the Cleveland NF ranger I just called, be sure that the signature side of the card is facing out.
The annual pass says on the back "The National Parks And Federal Recreational Lands Pass". I get one every year because between a few National Parks, occasional trips to the various National Forests, and many trips each year up to Cabrillo National Monument (the Point Loma Lighthouse in San Diego) I figure it is worth it.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/cleveland/passes-permits/recreation/?cid=fsbdev7_016469 (http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/cleveland/passes-permits/recreation/?cid=fsbdev7_016469)
Not trying to be argumentative here, but since many of us may already have the America The Beautiful Pass, I wanted folks to know you don't have to get anything else.
Post by: Ghost65 on June 23, 2016, 07:47:12 PM
Not quite. The America the Beautiful Annual Pass does in fact take the place of the Adventure Pass. Use the hang tag, and according to the Cleveland NF ranger I just called, be sure that the signature side of the card is facing out.
The annual pass says on the back "The National Parks And Federal Recreational Lands Pass". I get one every year because between a few National Parks, occasional trips to the various National Forests, and many trips each year up to Cabrillo National Monument (the Point Loma Lighthouse in San Diego) I figure it is worth it.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/cleveland/passes-permits/recreation/?cid=fsbdev7_016469 (http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/cleveland/passes-permits/recreation/?cid=fsbdev7_016469)
Not trying to be argumentative here, but since many of us may already have the America The Beautiful Pass, I wanted folks to know you don't have to get anything else.
I have been wrong before.
I will have my ranger from Canyonlands call your ranger from Cleveland so my ranger can be set straight.
Thanks for the clarification Frank!
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Post by: Jayrat on June 23, 2016, 09:24:39 PM
Who Knows :o
Post by: Celt on June 23, 2016, 10:02:45 PM
Post by: FrankB on June 23, 2016, 11:40:12 PM
I was told my National Parks pass can not be used as an Adventure pass??
Who Knows :o
Here is another page, this one from the USFS. You don't need to buy another pass if you have the $80 annual all Federal Lands pass.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detailfull/r5/passes-permits/recreation/?cid=stelprdb5208418 (http://www.fs.usda.gov/detailfull/r5/passes-permits/recreation/?cid=stelprdb5208418)
Here is some text from that page, I added the bold and underlining.
"This is a pass to use designated sites and areas of the Angeles, Cleveland, Los Padres and San Bernardino National Forests. Visitors to these four forests will be required to display the Pass in their vehicles when using the Forest for recreation purpose. The Adventure Pass is not a national pass like the America the Beautiful Interagency Passes. It is a local regional pass, required only on the four forests listed above. America the Beautiful Interagency Passes are also accepted at all locations where the Adventure Pass is required."
When I get my pass each year, usually at Cabrillo National Monument, I get a hang tag with it that allows it to be displayed in a window just like the Adventure Pass.
Post by: Sage Bromax on June 24, 2016, 05:56:43 AM
Post by: JFanaselle on June 24, 2016, 09:05:18 AM
I made the decision to go on the trip so put me down as a yes. Is there anymore discussion of heading out on Saturday or has it been firmed up for Sunday?
Got you down buddy. With as much traction as this gained immediately, I'd rather keep it set for Sunday at this point. Once people started chiming in that they were good to go, I set up the rest of my weekend plans around having this trip on Sunday. Hopefully with the holiday on Monday, this is good for most folks.
It certainly won't be the last run we ever plan, so we can set something up for a Saturday soon, too. I'd like to get something planned up into the San Jacinto Mountains this summer. Lots of cool roads up there, and maybe we can get PainRoller and FixItGuy to join us if it's right in their back yard. :) Maybe even an overnight camping trip up there. There's a cool yellowpost site on Thomas Mountain Truck Trail, but we'll have to see what the fire restrictions look like once they go in effect.
Post by: Celt on June 24, 2016, 11:29:11 AM
Got you down buddy. With as much traction as this gained immediately, I'd rather keep it set for Sunday at this point. Once people started chiming in that they were good to go, I set up the rest of my weekend plans around having this trip on Sunday. Hopefully with the holiday on Monday, this is good for most folks.
It certainly won't be the last run we ever plan, so we can set something up for a Saturday soon, too. I'd like to get something planned up into the San Jacinto Mountains this summer. Lots of cool roads up there, and maybe we can get PainRoller and FixItGuy to join us if it's right in their back yard. :) Maybe even an overnight camping trip up there. There's a cool yellowpost site on Thomas Mountain Truck Trail, but we'll have to see what the fire restrictions look like once they go in effect.
Sounds good to me buddy, I'll be there. One question I had though is who is this "Pain Roller" and "Fix it Guy" you speak of??
Post by: lutsie on June 24, 2016, 11:58:48 AM
Got you down buddy. With as much traction as this gained immediately, I'd rather keep it set for Sunday at this point. Once people started chiming in that they were good to go, I set up the rest of my weekend plans around having this trip on Sunday. Hopefully with the holiday on Monday, this is good for most folks.Love the camping idea. Been looking for an excuse to take the new born camping.
It certainly won't be the last run we ever plan, so we can set something up for a Saturday soon, too. I'd like to get something planned up into the San Jacinto Mountains this summer. Lots of cool roads up there, and maybe we can get PainRoller and FixItGuy to join us if it's right in their back yard. :) Maybe even an overnight camping trip up there. There's a cool yellowpost site on Thomas Mountain Truck Trail, but we'll have to see what the fire restrictions look like once they go in effect.
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Post by: knightrider on June 24, 2016, 12:11:17 PM
There's a cool yellowpost site on Thomas Mountain Truck Trail, but we'll have to see what the fire restrictions look like once they go in effect.
It's a terrible site and no one will want to camp up there. :D
Post by: RikRong on June 24, 2016, 06:23:05 PM
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Post by: JFanaselle on June 25, 2016, 02:07:53 PM
It's a terrible site and no one will want to camp up there. :D
:) I've wanted to camp there ever since I got found that spot like 15 years ago - in a Mazda Protege of all things. Yeah... I used to explore those mountains before I even had an off road vehicle. lol I think I only got stuck a few times on that trip. O0 I made it back up there about 10 years ago when I was a communcations officer for Cal Fire - the was a remote repeater site up there on Thomas Mountain, which used to be a UHF relay into the regular VHF remote base for Support 8. Without the UHF relay, the support channel didn't cover into the Anza Valley at all. Pretty sure that's all not even there anymore, but I could be wrong.
If you didn't catch it, the wife and are firm for this.😃
Excellent! Attendee list is updated.
Post by: knightrider on June 25, 2016, 08:05:27 PM
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Post by: PainRoller on June 26, 2016, 08:36:02 PM
Post by: Celt on June 26, 2016, 08:39:51 PM
Did you have vehicle limit for this trip? We are looking for an opp to get out and play..... O0
As long as you bring me a 6-pack of semi cold PBR, I will talk with the powers that be and see if I can't slide you in somehow on the down low...........
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on June 26, 2016, 08:46:48 PM
Post by: RikRong on June 27, 2016, 09:33:38 AM
Post by: PainRoller on June 27, 2016, 01:13:41 PM
As long as you bring me a 6-pack of semi cold PBR, I will talk with the powers that be and see if I can't slide you in somehow on the down low...........
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Post by: ghenderson21 on June 27, 2016, 01:29:21 PM
Somehow I managed to get a weekend day off!
Post by: occupantX on June 27, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
If the list is still open for late enrollment and you need an American African face O0 somewhere in the crowd...add me to the list, my Sunday just opened up
Post by: JFanaselle on June 27, 2016, 01:33:53 PM
Did you have vehicle limit for this trip? We are looking for an opp to get out and play..... O0
PLEASE do attend. :) There are many people in this group who need proof that you guys are still alive. ;) Shall I put you on the tentative list, or the absolutely list?
Move me from tentative to confirmed. My fiancé will be joining me. Still not 100% on the father in law...
Updated!
Put me down tentatively. Installed SPC arms and Radflos this morning. Alignment this afternoon, rear lift tomorrow, and hopefully sliders on by the end of the week.
Somehow I managed to get a weekend day off!
Got you down as tentative. Perfect way to spend your weekend day off! :)
Thanks for organising!
If the list is still open for late enrollment and you need an American African face O0 somewhere in the crowd...add me to the list, my Sunday just opened up
You're in, sir.
Randy - this is quite the group we have in place so far. This trail better not be disappointing. O0
Post by: PainRoller on June 27, 2016, 02:38:55 PM
Post by: xxSVxx on June 27, 2016, 02:46:42 PM
Randy - this is quite the group we have in place so far. This trail better not be disappointing. O0
Just watch out for that left handed turn once away from Randy's house...
Post by: steve c on June 27, 2016, 07:44:45 PM
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Southern California’s ubiquitous Adventure Pass system was dealt another blow this week, as the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals announced a long-awaited settlement in an ongoing legal battle between the U.S. Forest Service and Arizona hikers that was first heard in 2012.
According to the settlement, the Forest Service will no longer charge access fees for almost 400,000 acres of public land in the Southwest, and will only be allowed to charge fees near developed trailheads and other sites with six specific amenities: developed parking, a permanent toilet, trash receptacles, picnic tables, interpretive signs, and security services. In addition, the Forest Service has agreed that alternate parking 0.5 mile from each of these developed areas will be fee-free, so that users who simply want to utilize the trails in the area can park for free (assuming they don’t mind adding an extra mile of hiking to their trip).
The Forest Service has identified 66 specific sites that will currently require a user fee, and they will be installing additional signs marking the boundaries of these fee areas so that users know exactly where they can park their cars without having to pay. Signs are expected to be installed during the summer of 2016 and Kitty Benzar, the President of the Western Slope No-Fee Coalition (which advised the plaintiffs during the court proceedings), said “It is our understanding that there will be no fee enforcement at these sites until the signs are in place.”
In Southern California, the sites that will require a fee (once signs are installed) are as follows: (note that the settlement document did contain some typos in these place names. I’ve tried to correct the ones I’m familiar with.
Angeles National Forest / San Gabriel Mountains National Monument:
6000′ Day Use Area
Buckhorn Station Day Use Area
Burkhart Trailhead
Chantry Flats Day Use
Charlton Flat Day Use
Chilao Picnic Area
Colby Bridge Day Use
Delta Flats Day Use
Devil’s Canyon Day Use Area
Eagle’s Roost Day Use Area
East Fork of the San Gabriel River
Grassy Hollow Picnic
Icehouse Canyon Trailhead
Indian Canyon Trailhead
Inspiration Point
Islip Saddle Day Use
Jarvi Memorial Day Use
Mill Creek Summit Picnic
Millard Day Use
Mt. Pacifico Trailhead
North Fork Picnic
Oak Springs Picnic
Oak Springs Trailhead
Piru Ponds Day Use
Pony Park Day Use
Red Box Picnic
Skyline Park
Stonyvale Day Use
Switzer’s Picnic
Three Points Day Use
Upper Bear Creek
Vincent Gap
Vogel Flat Day Use
West Fork Trailhead
Wildwood Day Use
Wilson Saddle
Windy Gap (Little Jimmy) Trailhead
Cleveland National Forest:
Aqua Dulce Trailhead
Dripping SpringsTrailhead
El Cariso Picnic
Falcon Trailhead (at Blue Jay)
Holy Jim Trailhead
Hotsprings Trailhead
Laguna Trailhead
Maple Springs Trailhead
Meadows Trailhead
Pine Creek Trailhead
Pioneer Mail
San Juan Trailhead (at Blue Jay)
Tenaja Trailhead
Los Padres National Forest:
Piedra Blanca
San Bernardino National Forest:
Aspen Glen
Big Falls & Vivian Trailhead
Bonita Falls Trailhead
Children’s Forest
Cougar Crest
Falls Picnic
Grays Peak Trailhead
Heaps Peak Trailhead (No fee if you stay in your vehicle)
Humber Park
Juniper Point
Meadows Edge
Middle Fork
South Fork
Splinter Cabin
Woodland Trailhead
You can read the entire settlement here if you’re in the mood for legalese (PDF).
We have been following the case for several years and we think this is a fair compromise between people who utilize the developed areas of the National Forests and those who tend to stay in the backcountry. The new signs will hopefully alleviate some of the massive confusion that has resulted from the piecemeal solutions that have been in place thus far, and will ensure that the forests can continue having access to a badly needed source of revenue — that, fairly, comes from users in areas that tend to have a heavier footprint on the landscape.
This is from a hiker website, but seemed relevant to our discussion.
The way I read it, no adventure passes required as long as we don't park at a trail head?
What if we drive through?
Post by: Celt on June 27, 2016, 08:01:56 PM
FYI - From http://www.modernhiker.com/2016/06/27/where-do-i-need-an-adventure-pass-in-southern-california/
This is from a hiker website, but seemed relevant to our discussion.
The way I read it, no adventure passes required as long as we don't park at a trail head?
What if we drive through?
Passes...... we don't need no stinking passes.....
Post by: EJsarus on June 27, 2016, 08:12:38 PM
Post by: RBduffer on June 27, 2016, 08:51:04 PM
Sorry guys, I was in Palm Springs for the last 4 days, it wasn't hot enough here in Fallbrok :o
Thanks again Joe for taking point on this thread 8)
So glad to see so many folks sign up. We will not turn away anyone with a good attitude, all are welcome. If you can't get your CB in time, don't worry we won't lose you, BUT, we will make fun of you on the air.
Bring your own snacks just in case Hell's Kitichen isn't open, sometimes they keep weird hours, but we should be good.
I look forward to seeing you all, new and old friends alike.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on June 28, 2016, 09:16:59 AM
Post by: Kjswa on June 28, 2016, 10:50:29 AM
Post by: GreenGoon on June 28, 2016, 11:16:10 AM
FYI - From http://www.modernhiker.com/2016/06/27/where-do-i-need-an-adventure-pass-in-southern-california/
This is from a hiker website, but seemed relevant to our discussion.
The way I read it, no adventure passes required as long as we don't park at a trail head?
What if we drive through?
This settlement basically says that the adventure pass can only be enforced on those using amenities provided by the forest service such as restrooms or picnic tables. Even if someone parks at a trail head with such amenities, they have to actually use the amenities for the adventure pass to be enforceable. If a hiker (or off-roader) drives or stops in the forest and never touches a bench or facility provided by the USFS, the adventure pass does not apply.
Post by: GreenAcres on June 28, 2016, 12:01:50 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on June 28, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
Joe, please take the Father in Law off the tentative list...he can't make it.
Done. Bummer, I was hoping to see his Bronco. Any chance he was up in Big Bear with that bronco group on the weekend of June 11th and 12th? There were some really sweet Broncos up there.
Put me down as a maybe, this one is a real possibility for me but won't know for sure till the 1st.
Got you down as tentative. Hope you can make it!
Assuming there is room for one more (6 pack of PBR sign-up "fee" being duly noted :)), please count me in!
Got you down Morgan. PBR definitely not a requirement for me (I only drink cheap beer. haha), but resident beer snob RBDuffer might gladly take that off of your hands. :)
Post by: GreenAcres on June 28, 2016, 12:54:57 PM
Got you down Morgan. PBR definitely not a requirement for me (I only drink cheap beer. haha), but resident beer snob RBDuffer might gladly take that off of your hands. :)
I'm a bit of a beer snob myself, would have had to hold my nose to purchase PBR!, so I'm guessing RBDuffer and I will get along just fine :)
Post by: JCX on June 28, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on June 29, 2016, 09:18:46 AM
This sounds fun. Please add me plus 3.
Added. Please PM me your phone number, in case you have a last minute change or plans or something. See you there! 8)
Post by: ghenderson21 on June 29, 2016, 07:12:46 PM
Geoff
Post by: Jayrat on June 29, 2016, 09:08:02 PM
:'(
Post by: Celt on June 29, 2016, 09:14:52 PM
So I'm out, >:(
:'(
What the "Eh"..????
Post by: JFanaselle on June 29, 2016, 09:31:43 PM
Officially in! Looking forward to it!
Geoff
Sweet, see you there! Can't wait to see your rig now with the suspension mods. :)
So I'm out, >:(
:'(
Booooooooo!
Post by: Riz98 on June 30, 2016, 01:28:26 AM
Post by: JFanaselle on June 30, 2016, 05:55:16 AM
Just make sure he has all of the meetup location/time details and knows to bring some food/snacks and beverages, as we'll be spending at least a few hours out there on the trails. Does he have any equipment to air down and air back up? Does he have any kind of comms? Any recovery supplies? This will be a very laid back run and none of those things are really required, but it certainly helps to not be "that guy" who shows up with nothing and needs everyone's help. I'm sure it'll be perfectly fine either way - if he's not a very experienced wheeler, this will be a great opportunity for him and he'll learn a ton from the group. If he his an experienced wheeler, that's even better. :)
Post by: Jayrat on June 30, 2016, 09:23:34 AM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on June 30, 2016, 11:05:49 AM
Post by: JFanaselle on June 30, 2016, 12:11:57 PM
Please add Lemans(Fire Ninja) to the list +2!
Done
Post by: Celt on June 30, 2016, 04:31:56 PM
Please add Lemans(Fire Ninja) to the list +2!
Well well well, there is going to be an actual elusive Fire Ninja appearance. I'm going to bring a camera and document this.
Post by: JCX on June 30, 2016, 06:42:22 PM
Added. Please PM me your phone number, in case you have a last minute change or plans or something. See you there! 8)
PM sent.
Post by: Kjswa on July 01, 2016, 07:29:06 PM
Post by: knightrider on July 01, 2016, 07:35:04 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on July 01, 2016, 08:14:32 PM
I'm now in 100% not trying to turn this into a mod day but I ran into an issue with my skid plates today that I'd like a second opinion on. Glad to finally make a trail run!!
"In" list has been updated. That leaves the only "tentative" as Steve C. (in Ben Stein's voice:) Steve?.... Steve?... Steve?...
Post by: Celt on July 01, 2016, 10:56:49 PM
I'm now in 100% not trying to turn this into a mod day but I ran into an issue with my skid plates today that I'd like a second opinion on. Glad to finally make a trail run!!
I can bring my impact wrench.........................
Post by: Celt on July 01, 2016, 10:59:30 PM
"In" list has been updated. That leaves the only "tentative" as Steve C. (in Ben Stein's voice:) Steve?.... Steve?... Steve?...
JF, looks like my family will be bringing two separate vehicles of nefarious make and model so the conga line increases. I told Fathead about the run but I doubt he will make it. His grocery getter gets just sits in his garage and her tires get in a wad if dirt is in the path like a barn soured horse.
O0
Post by: Kjswa on July 02, 2016, 09:17:26 AM
I can bring my impact wrench.........................
That could be helpful, and a drill bit. Snapped the head of a bolt off, said bolt is still in the frame....
Post by: RBduffer on July 02, 2016, 10:57:32 AM
I'm excited to see everybody on the trail in two days!!!
Post by: ghenderson21 on July 02, 2016, 11:00:10 AM
If you are sure that you can get this done and be trail ready before 9, thats great. While there is always plenty of time on the trail for "the giving of adviced" with our knowledgable crew. It's not fair to the other 15 trucks in the group to be waiting on a chore that could be done at another time. (Unless it's an alternator swap at the top of Big Bear moutain (Inside joke).)[/color]
I'm excited to see everybody on the trail in two days!!!
Timeline is a little off sir! It's tomorrow! CB installed, although SWR is tough for me to peg. Sliders on except the self tapping bolts, have to complete that another day.
Looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow!
Geoff
Post by: RBduffer on July 02, 2016, 11:44:00 AM
Post by: Kjswa on July 02, 2016, 11:54:50 AM
If you are sure that you can get this done and be trail ready before 9, thats great. While there is always plenty of time on the trail for "the giving of adviced" with our knowledgable crew. It's not fair to the other 15 trucks in the group to be waiting on a chore that could be done at another time. (Unless it's an alternator swap at the top of Big Bear moutain (Inside joke).)
I'm excited to see everybody on the trail in two days!!!
It doesn't need to be fixed before hitting the trail. Just looking for a second opinion and some guidance. Will be ready to roll off at 9!
Post by: pyrofox79 on July 02, 2016, 03:27:40 PM
Post by: Ghost65 on July 02, 2016, 03:35:46 PM
If you are sure that you can get this done and be trail ready before 9, thats great. While there is always plenty of time on the trail for "the giving of adviced" with our knowledgable crew. It's not fair to the other 15 trucks in the group to be waiting on a chore that could be done at another time. (Unless it's an alternator swap at the top of Big Bear moutain (Inside joke).)
I'm excited to see everybody on the trail in two days!!!
Well said.
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Post by: RBduffer on July 02, 2016, 10:04:10 PM
Is it too late to sign up for this? I forgot to do it during the week and just remembered. It will be me My mutt and maybe another.
Your in, just show up before 9.
Check OP for info
See ya there!
Post by: JFanaselle on July 03, 2016, 12:19:07 AM
For those of you with Ham comms... we'll be operating on the standard SCCX simplex frequency of 146.535. For CB, I'd like to use channel 11. Those who don't have comms will run in the middle of the group.
Just a few last minute pieces of advice, especially for the newer folks who haven't had much of a chance to wheel with the group - please make an effort to bring everything you'll need for this run. As previously stated, this is a very mild trail and there is nothing really special required. That said, you should at a very minimum have a spare tire and jack, and some water and snacks for yourself and your crew. If you plan to air down, please bring whatever you need to do so and to air back up (tire gauge, compressor, etc). Airing down is always optional for a trip like this (we won't need to do it for traction), but it does increase the comfort level significantly.
Remember that the plan is to spend an unknown amount of time playing around at the OHV park, which will allow you to be as extreme or mild as you want. We plan to have lunch at Hell's Kitchen at the end of the run, but remember to bring some backup food in case the restaurant is closed or can't accomodate our party. See you all in the AM!
Post by: Sage Bromax on July 03, 2016, 07:52:25 AM
Post by: Sage Bromax on July 03, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
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Post by: Celt on July 03, 2016, 05:47:41 PM
Post by: Kjswa on July 03, 2016, 06:03:57 PM
Post by: steve c on July 03, 2016, 06:30:03 PM
Nice to meet some new faces.
Here are some photos I took. (the lens was DIRTY! I did the best I could to clean it up. SPOTS everywhere)
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Thank you guys for putting up with me wanting to take a group shot!
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OMG, these knuckle heads. They were trying to do the crawl up your buddies tire to show how awesome you are and freaking rolled the thing! Un real. As Ghenderson said, "you know you're in Elsinore when?"
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Cutest kid goes to this one!
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Great run guys, let's do it again soon.
Post by: RBduffer on July 03, 2016, 07:41:21 PM
Post by: RikRong on July 03, 2016, 08:04:50 PM
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Post by: JCX on July 03, 2016, 09:49:31 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on July 03, 2016, 11:03:52 PM
It was great meeting everyone. We should do another soon.
I couuldn't agree with this statement more than I already do! It was awesome meeting all of those who I hadn't met yet, and it was awesome hanging with some of the usual crowd as well.
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Post by: ghenderson21 on July 04, 2016, 09:53:08 AM
Inspected under the X this morning and took some paint off BOTH sliders! haha. Glad I got them installed Saturday morning.
Thanks again to Randy and Joe for putting this together. The wife was interested so much, that we are hitting Santiago peak Wednesday (pending she doesn't work).
Geoff
Post by: lutsie on July 04, 2016, 03:10:25 PM
Had an awesome time! Great to see everyone, and meet some new people!
Inspected under the X this morning and took some paint off BOTH sliders! haha. Glad I got them installed Saturday morning.
Thanks again to Randy and Joe for putting this together. The wife was interested so much, that we are hitting Santiago peak Wednesday (pending she doesn't work).
Geoff
My wife really enjoyed this as well and is down for future runs and upgrading the rig.
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Post by: PainRoller on July 04, 2016, 03:38:53 PM
Had an awesome time! Great to see everyone, and meet some new people!X2! It's been too long! Great to see old friends and make new ones. 8)
It's always a blast to get out on the dirt with this group.
Thanks, Randy and Joe, for setting up this run and wrangling the group all day. O0
Sorry for showing up "fashionably late" ......
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Post by: Ghost65 on July 04, 2016, 05:43:46 PM
My wife really enjoyed this as well and is down for future runs and upgrading the rig.
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Win. ;)
Post by: Sage Bromax on July 04, 2016, 07:58:26 PM