Southern California Club Xterra
Southern California Club Xterra => SCCX Xcursions => Topic started by: Toro on September 26, 2015, 10:50:07 AM
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Hello All,
With CANVAZ fast approaching, I have reached out to Jason (Deadpilot) and have been given the blessing to help with the final planning of this event. Unfortunately, Jason's monster will not be ready and has chosen to pass on attending. Needless to say, we were all looking forward to hanging with this monster rig and are bumbed you won't be making it. We appreciate everything you've done thus far and thank you for all the time and effort you've put in.
This thread will be merged with the original and the planning will coninue.
.......with out further adieu.........
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CANVAZ is a joint get together between California (CA), Nevada (NV) and Arizona (AZ). There is a rotation and every year a different state takes the reigns and hosts the event for others to attend. This year is CA's turn to host the event. Although our rigs exist all across our state, the south is where most of the rigs are and SCCX is hosting.
The location is the mountain town of Big Bear CA. The date is Saturday Oct 10th & Sunday the 11th with an option for Monday the 12th (Columbus Day).
As most of you know, BigBear is a wheelers paradise with trails for all skill and rig levels. For the SAS'ed group on 37's, Johnson Valley (KOH) is about an hour away.
The Lake sits at just under 7000ft and most of the camping is in the hills above the lake, so be ready for a cold October. There are also a verity of cabins tucked into the forest and a few motels and rustic lodges. I spend a lot of time there so feel free to ask any questions or just bring a warm sleeping bag and a sense of adventue.
A camping thread has been started by my co-Dawg Christiaan and can be found here
http://sccxterra.com/smf/index.php?topic=3294.0
Friday night potluck meet and great thread started here
http://sccxterra.com/smf/index.php?topic=3326.0
There will be a veriety of trails for all rig and skill levels.
Green trails - Minor to no modifications required
Blue trails - Minor mods recommended.
lift, tires, sliders.
Black trails - Must be bit by the modbug. add bumpers skid plates and one locker.
The ultimate decision on trail requirements will be up to the descretion of that trail leader. No if, ands or buts.
ALL RIGS MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE FRONT AND ONE REAR RECOVERY POINT.
Do not become the bowel obstruction on the trail. Your carelessness or disregard for this will impact others ability to enjoy themselves.
A full size spare and the ability to change a tire on uneven ground is a must.
1st trail run will be on Saturday the 10th and if there is enough interest, groups can run into Monday. There may be a evening run. For those who want to use all those lights we buy, this is a great opportunity to make it happen.
Post up your suggestions for the trails, questions and comments you may have.
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Saturday 10/10
Green Trail - Rattlesnake Canyon
Leader - RBDuffer
- Sage Bromax
- JFanaselle
Blue Trail - Gold Mountain
Leader - Ultrapc
- Hammer
- m.sainz12
- AZ-TED
- jvr
- xxSVxx
- GlamisDunesStar - possible
- RawKon (Kevin-Jeep)
-Ultrapc
- Rick (ZJ)
- Will (Tacoma)
- Jayrat
Black Trail - Holcomb Creek
Leader - Toro
- Scott307
- TDS George
- CAWoody
- Bob (Jeep, Toro's bud)
Sunday 10/11
Green Trail -
Leader -
Blue Trail - Pontiac Sluice
Leader - RBduffer
- Hammer
- m.sainz12
- AZ-TED
- jvr
- xxSVxx
- GlamisDunesStar - possible
- Sage Bromax
- Jayrat
- RawKon (Kevin-Jeep)
- Rick (ZJ)
- Will (Tacoma)
Black Trail - John Bull
Leader - Celt
- Dany
- TDS George
- CAWoody
- GreenGoon
- Scott307
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Mandatory trail requirements, recommendations, meet spots, comms and times.
General communications mountain wide
- Big Bear 2M repeater: 147.330+ Tone:131.8
Sat Green Trail - Rattlesnake Canyon
- Vons @ 0900
- 2m Simplex 146.535
- CB channel 14
- Running Boards removed
- Mud Flaps removed
- Front and rear recovery point
Sat Blue Trail
Meet Time - 0900
Meet Place - Vons
- 2m Simplex 147.405
- CB Channel 21
- 4x4
- Front and Rear recovery point
- full size spare
- tools to change the spare on uneven ground
- Sliders if you are not lifted.
- Equipment to air down your tires.
- Air will be provided for air up at the end of the trail.
If there is time we will run Jacoby also
Video of the trail https://youtu.be/wgFfI_Fa_38
Sat Black Trail - Holcomb Creek
Meet time: 0900
Meet place: Vons
- 2m Simplex 145.5200
- CB channel 12
Minimum trail requirements
-3" lift
-33"tires
-Full skids
-F & R bumpers
-Rear locker
-F & R recovery points
-Standard recovery gear
-CB Radio
- a good, patient attitude
- sack lunch and plenty of water
Sunday Green
Sunday Blue
- 2m Simplex 147.405
- CB Channel 21
- 4x4
- Front and Rear recovery point
- 2" lift
- Sliders
Sunday Black - John Bull
- 2m Simplex 145.5200
- CB channel 12
- Fawnskin visitors center
- Leaving by 1000 sharp.
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Reserved 3
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Reserved 4
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Reserved 5
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Reserved 6
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I would like to petition to make the Vons the meet spot for all runs.
Not only will everyone have access to last min supplies but part of the purpose of this event is the comradary and crap talking that goes on. Having everyone together in one spot allows everyone to meet each other, gives people the opportunity to chicken out and change trails.
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I have combed over the previous thread with pen and paper and have written everything down. Please review the lists above and comment if I jacked anything up.
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Thanks for taking the lead on the final planning details Danny, and thanks to Jason for putting the initial planning together to get everyone where we are today!
Can you please change me to Rattlesnake Canyon for Saturday, and add my cousin Jerry with his F-150 to the same run? The Pontiac Sluice group will need to find a new tail gunner, but it looks like they have quite a few people signed up for that run so I'm hoping that's not a huge issue. My cousin needs to run a green trail and we want to stay together.
Randy had suggested meeting up at 10:00 am for this run, and said he was ok with Vons, but I'll let him give the final word. If everyone else is meeting at 9:00, I'm sure we can change this run up to 9:00 am too. He was just thinking that gave everyone enough time to have a nice breakfast in camp, and it makes even more sense now that we'll need a little time to get around the lake and into town from the campsite.
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Oops... you were updating the lists as I was posting. Looks good!
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Looks Bueno to me-o.... Thanks much buddy!
I'll see you guys Sunday at the Fawnskin visitors center leaving by 1000 sharp.
Simplex 145.5200 Backup Big Bear 2M repeater: 147.330+ Tone:131.8
If we have anyone on a CB Channel #12
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Hey Toro , can you change me to Rattle Snake Canyon on Saturday. and put me down for the Gold Mountain on Sunday ??
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Hey Toro , can you change me to Rattle Snake Canyon on Saturday. and put me down for the Gold Mountain on Sunday ??
Updated
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We're looking for a person to lead Pontiac Sluice on Saturday. Would any of the current attendees be interested?
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Thanks Danny for taking over. It is much easier with someone going to the final details.
I know everyone was looking forward to seeing the beast in action and no one more then me. But sometimes ya gotta be a little smarter and wait a little longer till I can get thing done right instead of rushing. I'm looking forward to seeing the pics from the run.
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We're looking for a person to lead Pontiac Sluice on Saturday. Would any of the current attendees be interested?
As much as I'd love to help....I've never been on it....and not knowing a trail and leading a run doesn't make any sense to me...
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I'm staying at one of the local hotels and planning on coming up Friday afternoon, is anybody else coming up at that time? Are there plans to get together Friday night?
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I'm staying at one of the local hotels and planning on coming up Friday afternoon, is anybody else coming up at that time? Are there plans to get together Friday night?
Sounds like a few folks are heading up on Friday. We are planning something I hope will be fun.
Stay tuned.
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I will be driving up Friday evening with friends 2 jeeps are coming with me. Not sure what time we will get there, but we are staying by the Baldwin lake side.
one will be doing black (TDS George), one will be doing all blue.
Danny can you please add Rawkon (Kevin) to the blues.
I never run Pontiac before, but I know Kevin did. If we can't get anyone to lead that one I will ask.
Can we please assign radio channels to the color trail each day. I will let the expert radio geeks do it.
We should have a general channel for global comm and specific trail comms.
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Okey Dokey, 9AM @ Vons is a great plan for all the right reasons.
I will be leading the RSC loop on Sat.
"Can we please assign radio channels to the color trail each day. I will let the expert radio geeks do it.
We should have a general channel for global comm and specific trail comms."
For the Green trail we wil use Simplex 146.535 CB 14 as not to compete with
Celt's Blue Simplex 145.5200 CB12
As a general channel for global comm: 2M repeater: 147.330+ Tone:131.8 sounds great Celt.
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OP updated.
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So just throwing this out there. The blue trail groups are getting big. I am all for getting as much trail cover in as little time possible. Do we want to break the blue trail in two groups? And flip flop them on Saturday and Sunday.
I think I have two more coming, I haven't confirm their trail choice yet. But I would like to cap gold mtn at 15 trucks.
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So just throwing this out there. The blue trail groups are getting big. I am all for getting as much trail cover in as little time possible. Do we want to break the blue trail in two groups? And flip flop them on Saturday and Sunday.
I think I have two more coming, I haven't confirm their trail choice yet. But I would like to cap gold mtn at 15 trucks.
I couldn't agree more.
Would anyone be against splitting the blue groups up?
Sat - Group 1 GM
Sat - Group 2 PS
Sun - Group 1 PS
Sun - Group 2 GM
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We will need a lead for
- PS on Sat
- PS on Sun
- GM on Sat
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If we don't have leaders or tails for two separate groups my suggestion is to have a co leader in the middle stack the group with well equip vehicle in the front. That group won't stop for the tail.
For gold Mtn, we will all meet up at the rock garden for pictures and lunch. Then move on again. We will take off in same order then meet back up at the end of the trail.
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I don't mind being tail if you need , but I only have CB and no winch
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I don't know either trail, but I have CB and a winch and I'll help if needed
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My friend asked if we are doing a BBQ... I was thinking we could do a night run of rose mine or tip top mountain. What do you guys think?
http://www.dirtopia.com/wiki/Tip_Top_Mountain_Trail (http://www.dirtopia.com/wiki/Tip_Top_Mountain_Trail)
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I don't mind being tail if you need , but I only have CB and no winch
Bro, you are the perfect one to herd cats as a tail gunner. Since you are Canadian if something goes wrong everyone can by default blame you.
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I can tail (or lead, if needed) Pontiac Sluice on Sunday. We did a big part (2N61Y) of that trail last week.
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Just throwing this out there...
Alex reached out to me about having stickers made for this years CANVAZ event.
I can have the two designs cleaned up/set up, but there will be graphic art charges for that. Or, we can use the original CANVAZ logo sticker which is already in their system. I had our sticker gal update the year already, here's a proof:
(http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae195/DzrtX/CANVAZ%20II%20-%20California%20Edition/TylerCanvaz.jpg) (http://s971.photobucket.com/user/DzrtX/media/CANVAZ%20II%20-%20California%20Edition/TylerCanvaz.jpg.html)
Cost is $1 per sticker...let me know the group thoughts on this.
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My vote is to avoid the extra charges and roll with this design. It's more generic than the designs that were being thrown around earlier (no state logos, no event location info, etc), but the event is less than 2 weeks away and less is more at this point. If they can add "Big Bear, California" to the top without incurring the extra fees, that might be cool. Otherwise, generic stickers are better than no stickers. Besides, I think it looks pretty cool. :)
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That design looks great! A lot cleaner and easier with the colors. I'd definitely vote using this.
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I think that I can speak for everyone, (if they just had the good sence to agree with me) that this is the best way to go.
Thanks John
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I'm pretty sure my accountant will let me spent a few bucks on these. Put me down for two please.
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Okay cool...thanks everyone, that makes it easy.
Quantity? 30...40...50?
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If they can add "Big Bear, California" to the top without incurring the extra fees, that might be cool.
THIS^ and maybe the dates of the event...
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Otherwise, generic stickers are better than no stickers. Besides, I think it looks pretty cool. :)
It discreetly has 2015 in the middle...so, not really "generic". :)
Actually, the only years that offered stickers were 2011 & 2012.
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Cool Sticker . nice and simple
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I want 2 if you put" big bear "in the design
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I like how the compass is pointing southwest.
I see what they did there.
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I like how the compass is pointing southwest.
I see what they did there.
Didn't even notice that. Good show!
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So just throwing this out there. The blue trail groups are getting big. I am all for getting as much trail cover in as little time possible. Do we want to break the blue trail in two groups? And flip flop them on Saturday and Sunday.
I think I have two more coming, I haven't confirm their trail choice yet. But I would like to cap gold mtn at 15 trucks.
Breaking down the group define the purpose of all going wheeling together and making friends
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Breaking down the group define the purpose of all going wheeling together and making friends
True,
But managing 14 rigs with varying degrees of experience and modifications safely through a blue+ trail is complicated and should be left to the descretion of that trails leader.
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I'm just saying the people with experience can help the people without experience :o
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No worries. I have done that trail with 20+ I know what to expect. We will all have fun.
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there is no fun allowed to be had without prior written notice and a 2/3rds vote by the BOD.
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Can Randy count to 2/3?
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randy counts as 3/3rds since he's the only one attending. :)
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Can Randy count to 2/3?
Now THAT is funny. :D :D :D
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Can Randy count to 2/3?
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAH, Steve that was one of the best and well timed comebacks I think I've ever heard from you!!!!!
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Can Randy count to 2/3?
Last night I was half in the bag...so the best I could do would be 1/2 a vote... which is 1/6 short of a 2/3 vote.
Let,s do the math together Steve; Let's say that you started out with a Six-Pac, then you drank 3 beers, which is 1/2 of 6. Now in order to get to a 2/3 majority you MUST drink 1 more. That's because 6 beers divided into 2/3 = 6/1 X 2/3 = 6x2/1x3 = 12/3 = 4beers.
I may not be able to count, but NOW you're 2 beers short of a Six-Pac ;D
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Last night I was half in the bag...so the best I could do would be 1/2 a vote... which is 1/6 short of a 2/3 vote.
Let,s do the math together Steve; Let's say that you started out with a Six-Pac, then you drank 3 beers, which is 1/2 of 6. Now in order to get to a 2/3 majority you MUST drink 1 more. That's because 6 beers divided into 2/3 = 6/1 X 2/3 = 6x2/1x3 = 12/3 = 4beers.
I may not be able to count, but NOW you're 2 beers short of a Six-Pac ;D
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Hahahahahahaha
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I'll drink to that!
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Are there plans for a Friday night get together?
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Are there plans for a Friday night get together?
http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,3326.0.html
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It's an easy fire road out of Fawnskin with room to park. See ya there Tim.
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Awe. Who are not coming so we can update the list.
Toro can you add me to the blue on Saturday.
I have two more coming. Rick in a ZJ and Will in a single can Tacoma. I think they will run the blue. One might do green.
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Awe. Who are not coming so we can update the list.
Toro can you add me to the blue on Saturday.
I have two more coming. Rick in a ZJ and Will in a single can Tacoma. I think they will run the blue. One might do green.
Updated....
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I wont be able to make it. I'll be out of town. Looks like it will be a good time though.
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I wont be able to make it. I'll be out of town. Looks like it will be a good time though.
We'll miss you Frank. Always a good time having you along.
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OP updated.
The blue trails have been swapped.
For Randy to lead Pontiac Sluice, we have moved it to Sunday and Gold Mountain to Saturday. I hope this works for eveyone.
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Guys, I know this is super late in the game but would like some help. My buddy just bought a stock Tacoma. He knows how to wheel and is a very experienced HAM and wrench turner. He's going to be there at CANVAZ with me, so I would like to get him on a trial with everyone. What's open for Sunday?
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Just a heads up, was asked to repost for a member. They are bringing a set of skids to CANVAZ and are motivated to sell. Great deal on a set of skids for anyone interested http://www.azxterraclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2151.msg19313
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Just a heads up, was asked to repost for a member. They are bringing a set of skids to CANVAZ and are motivated to sell. Great deal on a set of skids for anyone interested http://www.azxterraclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2151.msg19313
Avi...have him register here and throw up a Garage Sale post...those should sell quickly. :)
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Guys, I know this is super late in the game but would like some help. My buddy just bought a stock Tacoma. He knows how to wheel and is a very experienced HAM and wrench turner. He's going to be there at CANVAZ with me, so I would like to get him on a trial with everyone. What's open for Sunday?
What year is the taco? What size tire does he have stock?
Looking at videos of PC that might be doable, but he might want to hitch a ride for Gold Mtn as he might struggle a little.
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OP updated. Sunday Blue trail has been updated with requirements.
I am willing to lead a Sunday Green trail if anyone needs to drop off of Pontiac Sluice.
I'm thinking Clarks Grade would be nice.
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Guys I have to back out of this trip. I was really looking forward to getting back into the fun. Next time. Have fun.
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What year is the taco? What size tire does he have stock?
Looking at videos of PC that might be doable, but he might want to hitch a ride for Gold Mtn as he might struggle a little.
I'm not exactly sure on the specs. In the end he bought it to build up a bit to be able to do overland trips if I understand him correctly. He's been with me on some good crawling projects so he will do just fine on any of the Blue runs I believe.
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Good enough to for me. Looking forward to good times. Got a serious case of Monday. I can't wait to charge the mountain on Friday!!!!!
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... Got a serious case of Monday. I can't wait to charge the mountain on Friday!!!!!
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No Kidding! This is going to be a loooooong week.
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I'll break camp Sunday morning and will have to be down the hill by 2:00-ish to pick up my boy from the inlaws. Looks like all that's planned for Sunday is Pontiac Sluice and John Bull?
I want to run something, but won't have time for an all day thing so I may just end up taking a leisurely stroll down Holcomb Valley Road on my way out of town or something.
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Is there anything going on on Monday I thought there was going to be a run
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Is there anything going on on Monday I thought there was going to be a run
Monday isn't a holiday for most so there hasn't been much talk of another run. If there is any interest we can most certainly put something together.
This weekend, BigBear will also be hosting an October Fest event. A good time can be had but be ready for higher police presence and larger crowds.
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Monday isn't a holiday for most so there hasn't been much talk of another run. If there is any interest we can most certainly put something together.
This weekend, BigBear will also be hosting an October Fest event. A good time can be had but be ready for higher police presence and larger crowds.
As long as I'm not drinking and driving the police can drive with me lol I don't mind staying another day 7.5+ hours of driving to get there I can use one more day
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As long as I'm not drinking and driving the police can drive with me lol I don't mind staying another day 7.5+ hours of driving to get there I can use one more day
Can't blame ya one bit...once we meet up there, we'll see if we can't help ya find some stuff to get into on Monday!
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Another FYI:
Oct. 10th is Opening Day for deer hunters :o Don't wander too far off the trails, unless you got a LOT of orange clothing on.
Do not, under any circumstances, mount antlers to your hood or overhead compartment ;)
Octoberfest and high powered rifles; what could go wrong ???
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Do not, under any circumstances, mount antlers to your hood or overhead compartment ;)
No promises
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We'll see who hunts who
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Thank you Alex for driving to grab the stickers for everyone...
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Thank you Alex for driving to grab the stickers for everyone...
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Very Cool thanks, you rock
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Nice! I'll purchase a couple when I get up there on Saturday morning. Be sure to bring them to the Vons parking lot for those who won't be in camp. Who's going to be the official sticker-seller since GeoYota won't be in attendance? Alex?
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Awesome stickers Ghost.
Even in your absence, you elevate the event.
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Yep, I'll bring the stickers Friday night at Hannah Flats, and I can hand them out there, one buck each.
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Sounds good Alex. I wont be able to make it to Hanna Flat on Friday Night, but I'll be at Vons on Saturday morning. Can you save me one?
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I'll make sure that get one Joe.
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I'll take 2 ::)
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Sticker came out great!
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Stickers are in hand and ready to go, thanks to John for getting these made :) I'll also be with the group at Vons Saturday morning: can I catch a ride with someone for the trail ride Saturday? ;D
I'll give any leftover stickers to Toro for the people on Sunday and onwards.
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Stickers are in hand and ready to go, thanks to John for getting these made :) I'll also be with the group at Vons Saturday morning: can I catch a ride with someone for the trail ride Saturday? ;D
I'll give any leftover stickers to Toro for the people on Sunday and onwards.
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You can ride with me I'm going solo always good to have someone to talk to
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Looks great.
This has been a tough week at work, just thinking about this weekend. I'm glad it's finally here. I will be rolling out of my place around 10am and am looking at a short 2 hour drive. See most of you tonight.
I too have an empty seat in the rig.
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Should see you around the same time, leaving San Diego @ 9:30 about 2.5-3 hrs
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Sorry for the short notice, but I will not be able to make this run. Thanks and have fun everyone.
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Great job with those stickers, had an awesome time at this event. May have to wonder over to Cali a bit more often.
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Yes, 100% agree. Can't wait for the next time.
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Thanks for the kind words and for making the drive. You guys/gals were a huge addition to our fun factor. Glad to see that you made it home safely. We'll see you next year, if not sooner ;)
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CAWoody and Scot307 where were you guys? We waited awhile at the Visitors Center and were trying to call you on Simplex and CB but to no avail. I hope something didn't happen preventing you from making the SP time.
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Sorry i didn't make back up the mountain. My son had a severe anxiety attack after the trail on Saturday and i had to take him home, then I overslept Sunday. Heard it was a great time, sorry I missed it. :-[ :'(
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It sucks that you wern't there, you should of seen it, they let me think that I was leading and everything :-X
I hope your son is doing well, see ya guys next time.