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Southern California Club Xterra => SCCX Xcursions => Topic started by: ArchX on November 30, 2011, 07:04:10 AM

Title: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on November 30, 2011, 07:04:10 AM
The San Diego X Underground (SDXU) a group of Xterra (or any offroad worthy Vehicle) enthusiasts residing in San Diego (or anywhere else on the globe) who for whatever reason dig off road (and on road vehicular travel ) ... Trail runs are lead by whomever the group chooses on the day/run, and has the will and ability to lead the run  . No officers, dues, fee's, or initiations.. all members must be willing, at all times to lend a hand for mechanical, moral, or comical support to all offroad and camping adventures.. group assumes zero liabilty for risk ..

This weekend Dec. 3rd and 4th..

Sat. : 9:00 am - SD departure
- 78E 9:30 - 9:45am - Meet in Ramona Albertsons (1459 Main St, Ramona, CA 92065)
- Banner drop in via Rodriguez Canyon to S-2
- Pinyon Mtn.. The Squeeze, the Drop
- Coyote Creek to Sheep Canyon to Camp.

Sunday Dec. 3rd
- 9:00am - Depart Sheep Canyon Campsite
- Trail #1 - tbd..
- return via S-2 Oriflame/Chariot Canyons to 78 ..

CB Channel - 17 (preferred)
FRS - TBD

The usual suspects so far...
Marc - Arch'sX (Camping Sat. and Sun. Wheeling)
John - GhostX (Sat. Wheeling)
Matt - Hardrock453 (Camping Sat. and Sun. Wheeling)
Jim - Jeep Sporting new Suspension (Camping Sat. and Sun. Wheeling)
Amber - GlamisDunesStar (Camping Sun. wheeling)


Let us know if you're in or meet up out there.. SDXU partners with and works with all other organized offroad groups, does not intend to ever really materialize or formalize....

Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: Ghost65 on November 30, 2011, 07:22:02 AM
Cool Marc, thanks for posting this up.  I guess I'll have to save room in the back window of my X for "another sticker."  ;)

FYI:  for anyone planning on attending this run, please be advised that some of the trails (The Squeeze, The Slot) could provide some serious off road challenges, as sliders, skids, a good set of tires along with a good dose of off road experience and common sense are required.  Running with stock tires/side steps/splash guards would not be recommended, unless you want to MOD your truck along the trail.  ;D

Please feel free to read through the SCCX Xcursion Guidelines Section here:

http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,212.0.html

(as SDXU is a subgroup to SCCX  ;)) and then ask questions accordingly.  Marc will be leading the trail and I will tail gun for the Saturday section.

Also, for anyone who is going to trek out with a ham radio, I will be monitoring 147.030 + repeater, and 146.520 simplex.  Hope to see a few faces both familiar and new.  :)

I will be loading a few geocaches for those interested as well.
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on November 30, 2011, 07:27:03 AM
Cool John..  ahh  yea another sticker probly..  hahaha..   ;D
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: SuperSlideStyle on December 01, 2011, 06:38:47 PM
Very cool indeed.  Wish I could go but my X just lost the alternator coming back from AZ.
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: IRON X on December 02, 2011, 04:40:35 AM
I would be up for this, the ony thing is that i dont feel like im as prepared as i should be for the trail run; as of right now im 3 weeks away from my new wheels and tires, and i dont own (yet) any skids or sliders. I would love to see what my 1.5 gen is capable of as stock as possible before I lift her, and this would be a great opportunity to test her out. Im a good 2 1/2 hours away from the meeting spot, but would be willing to make the trip this time if my shortcomings were not an issue. I have recovery points in the front of my rig but not yet in the rear (they are in the process of being fabricated). I do not have a cb set up yet but i have a motorolla T5400 two way radio that works pretty well and can get onto channel 14 and below. I have tools ready to go and a compressor for inflating and deflating my tires. So i guess my question is should i go regardless of what i dont have on my x yet, or should i wait until my rig is trail ready? (sorry for the late post but i barely saw this yesterday)
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: Ghost65 on December 02, 2011, 07:20:43 AM
I would be up for this, the ony thing is that i dont feel like im as prepared as i should be for the trail run; as of right now im 3 weeks away from my new wheels and tires, and i dont own (yet) any skids or sliders. I would love to see what my 1.5 gen is capable of as stock as possible before I lift her, and this would be a great opportunity to test her out. Im a good 2 1/2 hours away from the meeting spot, but would be willing to make the trip this time if my shortcomings were not an issue. I have recovery points in the front of my rig but not yet in the rear (they are in the process of being fabricated). I do not have a cb set up yet but i have a motorolla T5400 two way radio that works pretty well and can get onto channel 14 and below. I have tools ready to go and a compressor for inflating and deflating my tires. So i guess my question is should i go regardless of what i dont have on my x yet, or should i wait until my rig is trail ready? (sorry for the late post but i barely saw this yesterday)

Good morning...a couple of questions.

Is your Xterra 4WD?

What brand/model/size tires are you using?
  
Tell us a little about your off road experience?

Thanks!

John, GhostX
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 02, 2011, 01:09:08 PM
Yep, is she 4wd and your experience?  

Now, We are all now going to be on CB, I can also run FRS to keep you in the loop..  

You will risk damage to an unlifted unarmored Xterra. You will risk damage to a lifted armored Xterra.
 
-Even though Rodriguez has recently been graded, I rolled a rock the length of my undercarraige that gouged my shrock armored diff last run and I was at 3 1/3 inches of lift (now 4 1/2")..  
-Pinyon Mtn has a number of advanced obsticles, stock vehicle not recommended - we can recommend alternatives for you in area, meeet up with us later.  
-Coyote Canyon has recently been graded as well so should not be a problem up to camp.  
-You will make undercarraige contact on Oriflame, but it is doable stock.  I completed it bone stock 2 years ago, lots of contact, kinda slow going with no lift.  

Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 02, 2011, 01:24:13 PM
Just Runs rating below for Rodrigues/Pinion
2+   Slightly Modified      Above plus,, 31
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: IRON X on December 02, 2011, 01:33:13 PM
Im currently running Nexen Roadian Ht's. Size 265/70 R16

I have 4wd on my X and I am pretty new to offroading. Ive done some dirt roads up in big bear but no real trail riding as of yet  :-\






 



Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 02, 2011, 02:59:24 PM
Yep, it's a push really, we'd love to have you..  might be stressful for you though and yes a rock could damage some vitals Oil Pan, Diff etc..  You'd be running slower than us and without full communications...  I've got plenty of recovery gear, but you should have your own and a fire extinguisher of your own is a good idea...  John is very patient as a spotter, and event organizer, I am slightly less so (sorry just sayin personality thing) we'd do whatever we could to help you with any mechanical problems but we're not experts..  (though Matt's a dang good mechanic)

....now remember this is SDXU a completely informal subgroup of SCCX and others.. typically suited for the next step up in mods/runs..  
My gut says meet up to camp and run the 2nd day with us.  Then catch back up with us either on a more moderate day or when your truck is a little more outfitted.. other than that your already in with SDXU for even considering it  ;).  let us know what you decide..    
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: cdagne on December 02, 2011, 03:47:23 PM
I am going to try and make the Saturday run.  I have some things to do on my truck first so I am hoping to get them done tonight.  So you can put me in as a maybe and hope to see you all Saturday morning. :)
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 02, 2011, 04:15:55 PM
I am going to try and make the Saturday run.  I have some things to do on my truck first so I am hoping to get them done tonight.  So you can put me in as a maybe and hope to see you all Saturday morning. :)

Cool man hope to see you there..
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: Ghost65 on December 02, 2011, 05:48:01 PM
Cool man hope to see you there..

Didn't you play for the Red Sox?  :P
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: IRON X on December 02, 2011, 06:15:42 PM
I think Im gonna hold off until I get my cb and tires installed, which will be done by the end of this month. Ill be out there next time for sure. Have a good one guys.
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: Mastagrog on December 02, 2011, 08:32:52 PM
soon....
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: Blackx on December 02, 2011, 08:43:45 PM
Couple pics of the squeeze from Dec 2008.  There are about 3 other obstacles on this run that are deceivingly difficult especially with snow and ice. Make sure to have one truck at least with a winch.  Also, technically once you get through the squeeze it becomes a one way trail but I've seen guys run it backwards.

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/jejallo1/12-21-08%20Pinyon%20Canyon/IMG_4237.jpg)

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/jejallo1/12-21-08%20Pinyon%20Canyon/IMG_4242.jpg)
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 02, 2011, 09:18:50 PM
Cool, cool brothers..  awesome pics..  I have a winch, Jim has a winch.... this is only the beginning..   8)

Jeff,  How's the Titan Swap progressing ?
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: MaxPower on December 02, 2011, 10:00:23 PM
So who was the first guy that said, "Hey I think I can fit my truck through that...."?
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 02, 2011, 10:12:38 PM
So who was the first guy that said, "Hey I think I can fit my truck through that...."?

Great question..  maybe he was a contractor, ya know measure twice, cut (scrape) once.. 
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: Blackx on December 04, 2011, 12:21:21 PM
Yep, got the TS done.  If you look at the squeeze photos I'm rubbing sidewall on both sides.  OZ went through and he's wider and I remember it taking longer than the others just because you really have to finesse it.  We also had an FJ with us which I think is 1.5" wider than the stock X.  He's the only one that got a little rub on the rock on one of his panels.  Oz has a good photo of Heart Attack hill in his profile which is also part of this trail.  That's the only time I've ever used the Vehicle Decent Control.

Here's my friend trying to measure it before we decided to go through.  ;D

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/jejallo1/12-21-08%20Pinyon%20Canyon/IMG_4209.jpg)
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 04, 2011, 07:28:33 PM
Great run this weekend..  Had a really cool group, ran trails, camped , drank some beer..  Jim's new lift worked insane.. all had a good time..  

Well..  dang it..  couldn't get my Titan Swap through  the squeeze without serious Body damage..  Took a little fender press (yes scrape) for the effort..  

My synopsis Stock X width = 72.8" can make it wedged..  FJ width = 75" can make it usually a little scrape.  OZ made it not sure how wide he was in '08..  Titan Swap brings the width to 77.8" we tried placing the left tire low wedged and it climbed leaning into the rock before you could hug it, middle and it climbed leaning into rock for a press scrape, and finally placing the left side high - leaned in just a break shy of a high body shot..  Only took one scrape, ....  Actually, I coulda made it with some skinny pedal, a deductible, a body shop and a rental car for a week..  ..

.... buut  we bagged that part of the weekend run. I was bummed cause we didn't get to run the rest of the trail..  .  guess i'll have to do it ride-along with a stock width X, a gen 1 or a Samurai XJ7...lol.. though I keep thinking maybe we coulda stacked rocks under the right tire etc etc..  
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: Blackx on December 05, 2011, 07:39:22 AM
That's too bad. I was wondering if the TS width was going to be a problem. At the stock width there was no room for error.
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 05, 2011, 08:23:34 AM
Ahh. no worries..  98% of the time Titan Width is a big Advantage.  I wasn't shocked and had been thinkin bout the same thing mentioned it a couple o times..  .  I woulda been happier if everyone had continued for the rest of the run on Pinyon, I offered. but i would turned back as well.. 
Anyway's plenty of stuff to still do. 
Jeff, you should head out with us next run!
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: Blackx on December 05, 2011, 01:05:03 PM
I hope to get out there soon.  I've been traveling a lot for both work and vacation so that's been keeping me busy.

I have rear OME springs on order from rugged rocks so I'd like to get those in soon and do a nice kick off run with my new suspension. 
Title: Re: San Diego Xterra Underground - SDXU Trail and Camp Run Dec. 3rd & 4th
Post by: ArchX on December 07, 2011, 07:51:23 PM
Cool man..  we're talking bout Big Bear or Miller Jeep trail next perhaps..