Southern California Club Xterra
Southern California Club Xterra => SCCX Xcursions => Topic started by: Jayrat on July 21, 2020, 12:07:59 PM
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Alright I'm posting this ,
BUT NEED A TRAIL LEADER
Where: Coyote Flats
When: August 7-10
Why: Why the F@%k not
Time: 1400 .. Kickstands up by 1430
Location: 37.3463713 -118,438787 (Reata Rd. & Underwood Ln.)
More details may come
The COOL KIDS CLUB
1.Tony +1 Trail Captain
2.Joe +2
3.Jay
4.Steve C
5.Frank FBSD
5.Andrew "4Runner" Bromax
6.CAWoody
Fence Sitters
1. Jeff
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Reserve :P
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I went back through my collection of guidebooks (actually printed on paper!) and found one by Roger Mitchell copyright 1983 that describes the route into Coyote Flats. I have compared his trail instructions with currently available satellite imagery and everything seems to line up. I guess that means that I will volunteer to be trail leader. I am open to suggestion on meeting times and locations. Departure point will be from Bishop. According to Google Maps it should take less than two hours to get from Bishop to the campsite I previously designated (37.229562, -118.492555). Provided that it hasn't already been occupied, I believe this would serve as a good location for base camp. But, I have never been here before. So if someone has better information, please speak up.
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Thanks for posting this up! Is everyone staying until Monday or is anyone heading back on Sunday? Just trying to see what days I need to get off work.
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I am staying until Monday.
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Thanks for posting this up! Is everyone staying until Monday or is anyone heading back on Sunday? Just trying to see what days I need to get off work.
Heading home Monday
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Are you talking about up 395 before Bishop? Nice! Been on my list for awhile.
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Are you talking about up 395 before Bishop? Nice! Been on my list for awhile.
The road into Coyote Flats starts out of Bishop.
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My grandma used to live in Bishop. Back when I used to drive a Suzuki Samurai. Never made it to Coyote Flats.
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Please update me from a "talking about going" to a "going." Also, we'll be a party of 2.75, as Gavin will be coming as well.
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I went back through my collection of guidebooks (actually printed on paper!) and found one by Roger Mitchell copyright 1983 that describes the route into Coyote Flats. I have compared his trail instructions with currently available satellite imagery and everything seems to line up. I guess that means that I will volunteer to be trail leader. I am open to suggestion on meeting times and locations. Departure point will be from Bishop. According to Google Maps it should take less than two hours to get from Bishop to the campsite I previously designated (37.229562, -118.492555). Provided that it hasn't already been occupied, I believe this would serve as a good location for base camp. But, I have never been here before. So if someone has better information, please speak up.
Hey Tony, I just got back for Coyote Flats Monday. Most information seems accurate. I will add a bit more to it if that helps.
1. 2 hours is pretty accurate. It took us 2:20 on Sunday but we had to pull off about a dozen times to let folks by has most were leaving on a Sunday. In fact, by the time we got up there nobody else was there at all. I imagine there will be fair amount of rigs there on a Friday/Sat night.
2. Campsite - Lots of fire rings by Funnel Lake. However, it is very exposed and the wind was unbearable for us. I will PM the coordinates of the meadow we stayed at that was nice and protected. This maybe a good back up option for ya.
3. Ford Flat road is closed just east of the meadow. Boulders fell into the road creating an impassable wall. looks like its been that way for awhile.
4. Onion Creek road out to Big Pine is knurly. We checked it out and deemed it has a no go. The first "obstacle" has the rig 3 wheeling off camber towards a large drop off the shelf road.
Let me know if there is any info I can help with.
Miles
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Great info. I was wondering about being able to come out at Big Pine, but that sounds like a no go. Yes, please send or post the coordinates of the protected spot you found. I don't think any of us like camping in the wind.
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PM sent. Didn't want to post the coordnants to that one on social media. It's a unique place.
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Please update me from a "talking about going" to a "going." Also, we'll be a party of 2.75, as Gavin will be coming as well.
Excellent
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Jay - are you bringing Aiden?
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gotta pull out....didn't know it was Mammoth area, and with a new job I can't take time off yet....so 5pm Fri + drive to mammoth = setting up tent at 11ish for one day of camping = no dice
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tenative-ish-sorta
lemme check w/ the better half and see what we can pull w/ a new rescue doggo, etc
DO IT >:D
it would be great to see you
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Jay - are you bringing Aiden?
I thought I was , but that was shot down yesterday lol
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1st post updated
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Keeping tabs on this one as I'd be taking the bike up out there if I pull the trigger. :D
Never been out there, but are the trails do-able for a relative newb on a midweight moto? Any areas of contention (ie deep sand, rock gardens etc)?
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Keeping tabs on this one as I'd be taking the bike up out there if I pull the trigger. :D
Never been out there, but are the trails do-able for a relative newb on a midweight moto? Any areas of contention (ie deep sand, rock gardens etc)?
I watch a video of a lifted Honda passport and stock Ridge line make the trip (ridgeline not so much)LOL
I think you'd be fine
I found a Dual Sport Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW9IGPVTVJo
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I really haven't been on this site since Covid. Steve C brought this up to me and I am a maybe. I should know more in a couple of days. I have done Coyote Flats a few times and have covered pretty much every road up there. I am not a big fan of the two roads to Funnel Lake, it worse than driving through a rock quarry, Steve can confirm. I have stayed many times at the hunting cabin on Baker Creek and its a great spot as well as down the way on the creek. I also enjoyed staying on the shores of Coyote Lake. The spot mapped out for an overnight is not a bad spot as well. there is room around that little lake for a couple of groups. Is this an overlander style trip with a different camp each night?
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Hay, Sage. What book is that you used, from 1983?
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Jeff - I am taking my trailer, so I don't want to make multiple moves. I was expecting to go in, find an agreeable spot for base camp, then people can explore the area or sit and enjoy a beverage with friends. Low stress get-away.
S3 - It is Eastern Sierra Jeep Trails by Roger Mitchell, La Siesta Press, 1983. I picked it up at a Dick Cepek store in El Cajon in 1985 for $1.50 (list price). Or a used one is available on Amazon for $17.50 (1971 edition):
https://www.amazon.com/Eastern-Sierra-trail-Roger-Mitchell/dp/B0006WK5YS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2HVLBNRKNWN76&dchild=1&keywords=eastern+sierra+jeep+trails&qid=1596032211&sprefix=Eastern+Sierra+Jeep+%2Caps%2C220&sr=8-1
I had also picked up several other of his books back then, including Inyo Mono Jeep Trails (1969), $1, which I see is selling new on Amazon for $435! That may be the most valuable book in my library!
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My plan is to get there, and Stake my Claim for the next 3 Daze >:D
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I really haven't been on this site since Covid. Steve C brought this up to me and I am a maybe. I should know more in a couple of days. I have done Coyote Flats a few times and have covered pretty much every road up there. I am not a big fan of the two roads to Funnel Lake, it worse than driving through a rock quarry, Steve can confirm. I have stayed many times at the hunting cabin on Baker Creek and its a great spot as well as down the way on the creek. I also enjoyed staying on the shores of Coyote Lake. The spot mapped out for an overnight is not a bad spot as well. there is room around that little lake for a couple of groups. Is this an overlander style trip with a different camp each night?
Can confirm Funnel Lake roads are not awesome. Definitely could be a fun wheeling day adventure for folks that want to do that kind of thing.
Coyote Lake is awesome.
Hunting cabin on Baker Creek is awesome.
100% confirmed, not taking the "shortcut" out to Big Pine.
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Keeping tabs on this one as I'd be taking the bike up out there if I pull the trigger. :D
Never been out there, but are the trails do-able for a relative newb on a midweight moto? Any areas of contention (ie deep sand, rock gardens etc)?
Hey Richard,
What are you riding? Has a follow rider and just coming off that trail on the X. A dual sport is doable with a capable rider. IMHO I would not attempt with an adventure bike. Largest bike for me would be a 450/500 dual sport. No KLR are anything near that kind of weight. There are rock gardens with smaller sized rocks.
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Hey Richard,
What are you riding? Has a follow rider and just coming off that trail on the X. A dual sport is doable with a capable rider. IMHO I would not attempt with an adventure bike. Largest bike for me would be a 450/500 dual sport. No KLR are anything near that kind of weight. There are rock gardens with smaller sized rocks.
Well noted. I'm on a fat Honda CB500X. I figured in certain sections it could be difficult, but its looking no bueno for me for this trip anyways.
Curious on the post trip report on the trail conditions for future plans though.
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You can mark me as "going"
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You can mark me as "going"
SWEET
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I am not a big fan of the two roads to Funnel Lake, it worse than driving through a rock quarry.
Why you hatin on the rocks man?.....
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Why you hatin on the rocks man?.....
Because rocks suck! lol lol
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Because rocks suck! lol lol
BLASPHEMY!..................................................
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I was reading an article that was saying Coyote Flats is on an average
10 degrees cooler than Mammoth Lakes so prepare accordingly
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/93546
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I was reading an article that was saying Coyote Flats is on an average
10 degrees cooler than Mammoth Lakes so prepare accordingly
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/93546
Can confirm, cold at night. Bring a jacket or prepare to cuddle with Celt for warmth.
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Any spouses going?
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Any spouses going?
Not mine, but one of my sons is coming along.
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I believe Joe is bringing Jessica
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Because rocks suck! lol lol
Rocks are awesome Joe. I mean who doesn't want custom rock formed sheet metal? Look at this beauty from Coyote Lake Trail (near Shaver Lake) Saturday.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/9facdd29bcd8a923b890d3a4edb0c5b7.jpg)
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Does anyone want to meet up on the road and do a convoy?
I think everyone has to go by the Pilot at the start of the 395.
Punch this into the google and let me know.
8701 US-395, Hesperia, CA 92344
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Does anyone want to meet up on the road and do a convoy?
I think everyone has to go by the Pilot at the start of the 395.
Punch this into the google and let me know.
8701 US-395, Hesperia, CA 92344
Sounds good to me. What time are you thinking?
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Sounds good to me. What time are you thinking?
So, Jay wants us here (37.3463713 -118.438787) by 1pm.
The google says it's 3h39m from the Pilot to there.
Allowing for bathroom breaks and a little wiggle room, I'd say meet up at 8, leave at 8:30ish?
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So, Jay wants us here (37.3463713 -118.438787) by 1pm.
The google says it's 3h39m from the Pilot to there.
Allowing for bathroom breaks and a little wiggle room, I'd say meet up at 8, leave at 8:30ish?
it's Just over 2 hrs for me, I'll see you there
I would like to stop in Randsburg for 15-20 minutes if that.
74miles, 1hr 20min North of the Pilot Station , just off 395
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Almost got the wife convinced to go. Showed her a video on YouTube that made the road look easy. I'll have a definite answer in a day or two.
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Woody - Jessica is coming.
We have also decided to leave the boy with Nana, so it'll just be the two of us. Since no other kids are coming, he'll just be bored out of his mind and drive us crazy anyway. :o We'll do a different "kid friendly" trip in a few weekends for him, maybe Santa Rosa Mountain or Big Bear.
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Rocks are awesome Joe. I mean who doesn't want custom rock formed sheet metal? Look at this beauty from Coyote Lake Trail (near Shaver Lake) Saturday.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/9facdd29bcd8a923b890d3a4edb0c5b7.jpg)
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Nice way to get some custom air conditioning! Rocks are Awesome, now trees that tend to jump out in front of me not as much. That is an entirely different story.
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How much firewood is everyone bringing? Or maybe I should ask.... how much wood do we need to bring?
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How much firewood is everyone bringing? Or maybe I should ask.... how much wood do we need to bring?
I was thinking 3 each ?? = 15 bundles at least . That's 5 a night LOL lol We do like our fires to last long
What's your thoughts ?
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I was thinking 3 each ?? = 15 bundles at least . That's 5 a night LOL lol We do like our fires to last long
What's your thoughts ?
Yes.
Plus, we’re in a forest. Likely some deadfall to chop up with that axe you’ve been carrying around and never used. (Collective you, not you you :) )
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I'm good with that! I have some left over fence boards on the side of my house that I'll try to cut up and bring, too.
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Meet time has changed by 1/2 hour
Meet 1400
Aired down and Rolling by 1430
Can't wait >:D
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Meet time has changed by 1/2 hour
Meet 1400
Aired down and Rolling by 1430
Can't wait >:D
Should we push back Pilot docking until 9:30am?
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It now looks like all three of my sons will be coming. My oldest (Andrew) is going to bring his new 4Runner. The boys will be heading back Sunday (they can only take one day off), but I will stay until Monday.
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Woody - Jessica is coming.
We have also decided to leave the boy with Nana, so it'll just be the two of us. Since no other kids are coming, he'll just be bored out of his mind and drive us crazy anyway. :o We'll do a different "kid friendly" trip in a few weekends for him, maybe Santa Rosa Mountain or Big Bear.
^^^^^^^^^
Just saw this
Ayden and I would love a kid friendly camp trip
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It now looks like all three of my sons will be coming. My oldest (Andrew) is going to bring his new 4Runner. The boys will be heading back Sunday (they can only take one day off), but I will stay until Monday.
Andrew "4Runner" Bromax has been added
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Should we push back Pilot docking until 9:30am?
Meet 9:00 ish
Leave by 9:30 ish
Time for Gas , Random Stops , & Fast food / Gas in Bishop B4 the trail ??
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I was thinking 3 each ?? = 15 bundles at least . That's 5 a night LOL lol We do like our fires to last long
What's your thoughts ?
Bad news. We are going to be in Inyo National Forest. No campfires unless in the steel pit at an official campground. Here is a link to the Fire Order: https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd737727.pdf
That sucks.
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I've almost got the green light to go. I have a propane fire pit I will bring along.
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I have a propane fire pit also
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Bad news. We are going to be in Inyo National Forest. No campfires unless in the steel pit at an official campground. Here is a link to the Fire Order: https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd737727.pdf
That sucks.
Thanks Tony
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I have a propane fire pit also
I've almost got the green light to go. I have a propane fire pit I will bring along.
Thanks Guys
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Bad news. We are going to be in Inyo National Forest. No campfires unless in the steel pit at an official campground. Here is a link to the Fire Order: https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd737727.pdf
That sucks.
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I have a propane fire pit as well if you would like to bring it Jay.
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I have a 10# propane bottle that I'll try to squeeze into my rig, so that we have extra propane for the fire pits. I do also have a very small propane fire pit, but it doesn't get very hot and I am pretty sure I won't have room in the rig for it and the bottle.
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I have a propane fire pit as well if you would like to bring it Jay.
Cool Thanks
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As I'm not bringing wood I'll bring a Tank also
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I'm in. I'll bring my pit and a big propane tank. See you Friday.
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I'm in. I'll bring my pit and a big propane tank. See you Friday.
Sweet
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I'll have my Ham on, so maybe we'll get Radio contact at one point on the road
146.535
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Enjoy fellas! Looking forward to some pics :)
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That trail was a lot more challenging than any of us anticipated. It took about 2.5 hours to get to camp, with a couple of stops. A word to the wise, don't air down C-load range tires. We went through both of my spares on the Dominator to figure that out. The rim pinched the sidewall and cut right through. Fortunately, we had made it through the first set of crazy switchbacks when we lost the first tire, and were only a mile from camp when the second one went. Otherwise, the trailer did great. Camping at nearly 10k feet takes it out of you though. Several in the group were feeling it more than the rest. The spot we were at was in a little bowl of bristlecone pine, regular pines, and cottonwood trees. We had deer roaming through the area and the weather was great. It was crisp at night, and a bonfire would have helped.
I stayed in camp and just relaxed. The drive up the mountain was a white-knuckler for me, towing the trailer, and I just needed time to chill. Others went off exploring on Saturday and I'm sure there will be great pictures posted. My son discovered that the side bars with steps on his Forerunner are not real rock sliders. That which hangs down, gets smashed or ripped off!
We all left camp yesterday morning around 9:15 and were airing up at 10:30 just outside Bishop. My sons and I stopped for pizza and calzone at The Pizza Factory in Lone Pine, so that put us about an hour behind everyone else. We made it home to Lemon Grove a little after 6 p.m.
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That campsite looks A-Mazing! I really wanted to go but after just getting home off the Rubicon I'm just coming out of hibernation. I'll be really interested to see the rest of the pics the other guys post. I'm sure I missed a good one.
The only question I have is how was Lone Pine Pizza? Hopefully they have upped their game. It used to be really good when I would go climb Mt. Whitney years ago but in recent years has slipped a lot in my opinion.
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The pizza was good. The crust not too thick, but not the cardboard variety. Sauce and toppings were good quantity. Dylan and I split a medium pepperoni and mushroom, Andrew had a pepperoni and jalapeno, and Sean had a monstrous calzone. Just wish we could have had a pitcher of beer, but we were hitting the road.
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Tony, that trailer is next level! How long does it take to set up?
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Tony, that trailer is next level! How long does it take to set up?
To level it, open the top, put in the support poles for the awning - less than half an hour.
To completely enclose the room and set up the en suite bathroom, another half hour.
Except at nearly 10,000 feet, when you need to sit down every few minutes to catch your breath.
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It looks like a pretty nice place to hang out for a few days. Looking forward to seeing more pictures.
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Photos posted here: https://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php?topic=5091.0
Such a wonderful trip! Thanks to Jay, Steve, Tim + Carrie, Frank, and Tony + his three sons for such a memorable weekend!