Southern California Club Xterra
Southern California Club Xterra => Off Topic => Topic started by: Jayrat on March 01, 2018, 11:36:14 PM
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So my question is ,
We have 576 members
Maybe 30 Active forum members
and 15-20 that are actively involved
I guess I have no question, ???
Just confused ,why knightrider puts so much effort into nothing ??
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I think it comes down to exposure, I am terrible at keeping up with it but marketing is huge.
I like to do what I can, which is computer things.
A constant influx of new blood is key. Maybe we do the business card/sticker thing for Xterras we see around. Post events to FB/instatwitter with #numbersigns.
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Who handles the FB page? assuming knightrider?
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Probably need an Instagram page to compete these days....
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Who handles the FB page? assuming knightrider?
Yep
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Probably need an Instagram page to compete these days....
I've been nice thinking that for a while. I'm an IG whore and I'd be more than willing to run an IG page.
However, I think the limited exposure keeps this group pretty tight. Yes, new members is always a good thing, but it's also nice to know exactly who you're out with and whether or not you can trust them in the boonies.
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However, I think the limited exposure keeps this group pretty tight. Yes, new members is always a good thing, but it's also nice to know exactly who you're out with and whether or not you can trust them in the boonies.
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I thought that we already had a FB page, and it kinda died out. Speaking for the old guys, who shall remain nameless, (Hint: Me, Eric and maybe Tony) FB seem to take away a lot of traffic from our site. My wife would tell me about outings that I never got to see. OK, maybe that was the plan, but still, just sayin' ::)
"I visualised a FBer in a haze as one of those slackster, flannel-wearing, coffee-house misanthropes I've been seeing in Newsweek." You know a bunch of hipsters in touch with themselves wearing funny hats, smoking refers, shooting cocaine and snorting LSD. Oh yeah, except for my wife of course, she's just checking on her kids.
I guess what I'm trying to say is... It's OK to feed from different troughs, just don't drink the bong water.
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I thought that we already had a FB page, and it kinda died out. Speaking for the old guys, who shall remain nameless, (Hint: Me, Eric and maybe Tony) FB seem to take away a lot of traffic from our site. My wife would tell me about outings that I never got to see. OK, maybe that was the plan, but still, just sayin' ::)
"I visualised a FBer in a haze as one of those slackster, flannel-wearing, coffee-house misanthropes I've been seeing in Newsweek." You know a bunch of hipsters in touch with themselves wearing funny hats, smoking refers, shooting cocaine and snorting LSD. Oh yeah, except for my wife of course, she's just checking on her kids.
I guess what I'm trying to say is... It's OK to feed from different troughs, just don't drink the bong water.
That makes perfect sense. I've never liked depending on FB to organize runs. In my experience on SCXF, 30 people say they're going to go on the FB event page and only 10 show up. Do we wait for everyone, just in case someone is running late? I'm a person of accountability, if you say you're going to go, you go or you contact the organizer and say you can't make it. FB is kind of a cop out.
There's also another way to look at it and it's the dependence on technology that started in the younger people of my generation and has perpetuated with the newer generation after mine. Many people don't take the time to get on a forum. FB is quick and easy. There's another lesson learned from SCXF. One of their members started a forum for SCXF. It was beautiful and well organized. No one, and I mean literally no one signed up for the forum, besides myself and the creator. Most everyone in SCXF falls into the generation after mine and they think forums are outdated. However, I believe forums allow for more accountability and the capability to better organize a run.
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Being one of the old guys like Duffman, I don't Facebook, Instagram, Snap chat or any other of those millennial self indulgent forms of communications. But I do know if we want to reach more people then that's the way to do it. It would be nice if someone who spoke that language could help this band of geriatrics get the word out on how much fun we really are. There are a few of us North of the Camp Pendelton/Tijuana border that would like to stay involved unfortunately here in the OC we seem to be surrounded by the millennials, they like the way my truck looks but don't want to get involved since we are only a Blog site.
I'm all for a new logo and some new shirts. Go beedee!
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I wouldn't mind being able to expand the sites membership for runs and activity a little. I try and tell other guys I run into about the site and encourage they head out with us. The trips always seem to be a lot of fun no matter it be an Anza Borrego, Big Bear or a bigger run. I agree with RikRong that it's nice knowing who you are going out miles away with especially when your family is along. I'm with Woody and Randy that I could care less about any of the millennial smoke signals that's being used today. It all just seems impersonal to me but that's coming from someone who will still write a letter to a friend and do so in cursive. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing as that's how the young guys like to communicate. Maybe some of those things can be linked back to here somehow so people have the ability to sign up for the runs on this forum? I think we are a close knit group that still gets together for a lot of fun in between having families and generally working way too hard and hope it can stay that way. This forum is a great spot to come and relax a little at the start or end of a day. Having it not get too big keeps things personal which is a great thing and I always really look forward to the trips.
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I'm an IG whore and I'd be more than willing to run an IG page.
Do it.
Might be time to refresh the branding? With all due respect, the logo design feels kind of dated.
Not opposed to this. If you could do some designs, maybe some rough ideas, I'm into it. I was just talking to a new contact on getting shirts/stickers/patches made so perfect time for a new design.
We do have a FB page but JT3 and I are the only admins, if anyone else would like to help add content I would appreciate it. I am not huge into posting and stuff so you youngins could be a great addition. I agree it's nice to have stuff on FB like runs but some people miss out on the goings on because they do not face the book.
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awesome feedback. Loving it!!!
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People would vote for what day, and what location they'd like the run to be, and then not show up. I can't tell you how many times I'd see a Saturday get lets just say 20 votes, and a Sunday gets lets just say 15. And then because of the poll votes the run gets set for Saturday, the pictures start trickling in Saturday night and maybe only 7 people showed up for the run. That drove me nuts, and eventually guided me to setting up my one little "private" runs of only a few people.
I have noticed this alot on the mountain biking trail work days posted to FB, lots of people sign up and say they are going and then maybe half of those people show up to the actual work day. If you want to post up runs here that is fine with us, you may get a few more participants since some of us have weird schedules as well, working weekends sucks.
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Also I will have no hurt feelings for anyone wanting to help, this is an all volunteer group. I maintain the website since no one else wanted to/could and I am the first to admit I am terrible at social media. I live in the moment so I almost never take pictures or post things on IG/bookspace.
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Hey I am on her I am from the OC, I am not a millennial.
Being one of the old guys like Duffman, I don't Facebook, Instagram, Snap chat or any other of those millennial self indulgent forms of communications. But I do know if we want to reach more people then that's the way to do it. It would be nice if someone who spoke that language could help this band of geriatrics get the word out on how much fun we really are. There are a few of us North of the Camp Pendelton/Tijuana border that would like to stay involved unfortunately here in the OC we seem to be surrounded by the millennials, they like the way my truck looks but don't want to get involved since we are only a Blog site.
I'm all for a new logo and some new shirts. Go beedee!
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Do it. Not opposed to this. If you could do some designs, maybe some rough ideas, I'm into it. I was just talking to a new contact on getting shirts/stickers/patches made so perfect time for a new design.
We do have a FB page but JT3 and I are the only admins, if anyone else would like to help add content I would appreciate it. I am not huge into posting and stuff so you youngins could be a great addition. I agree it's nice to have stuff on FB like runs but some people miss out on the goings on because they do not face the book.
I have no problem starting up the SCCX IG, I just will need to have people submit content to me or allow me to use pictures from the forum. I want it to be focused on us and not really be about posting pictures submitted by followers, like many of the other pages out there.
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I just will need to have people submit content to me or allow me to use pictures from the forum
Feel free to use ANY shot I've ever taken. If you need a copy, please let me know. I'll be sure to post/tag some to IG in the future. I've never been much into IG, but I need to be (it's a huge tool in the public safety photography world, too, and I need to embrace it more).
We do have a FB page but JT3 and I are the only admins, if anyone else would like to help add content I would appreciate it
I'm down. Add me as an admin if you want. I'm sure I'll be terrible at it, but I shoot enough content that I might as well be able to post some of it from time to time. :D
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"marketing" this "club/not a club" has always been a challenge.
Plus side to FB/Instagram are they draw in new members...folks LOVE to see Xterras/Frontiers/Nissans wheeling in remote/extreme locations, and searching for photos in thread on a forum, to Duffman's point, is millenial tedium at it's finest.
Plus side to forums, you can search for material, and history of runs/trips/builds are perfect for new members to view for tips/tricks/mod ideas...you just can't do that on social media.
Down side to all of this...within the world of a "club/not a club" is that there is no real ownership, or accountability, which time and time again is what the folks like about this site. It's easy, no rules...etc.
However, this casual attitude can be frustrating to folks who have a passion for Xcursions, showing up on time, leaving on time, coming to the trail semi-prepared, and generally being semi-responsible.
So what I have seen in 9 years of participating in this forum is an ebb and flow of folks who wheel when they can, some of us get very involved and lead and organize consistent runs, and others show up once to never return.
IMHO the best thing is to be consistent with posting runs, and work hard to be patient with new folks on the trail, but also set appropriate expectations in the first post of an Xcursion...which hopefully avoids a bit of confusion when a 2WD shows up to run Gold Mountain in Big Bear.
It's the people that seem to make a forum really work, the more you meet face to face, the less those one dimensional out of context posts are taken to heart, and you can joke about them later over a campfire and beers/s'mores...
Kudos to the current crew of folks who have been pumping the life blood of Xcursions/Mod Days/Meet N' Greets that literally drive the traffic to this once unlively collection of threads and posts...Randy, Jordan, Joe, Erik, Tony, Jay, Rick, Tim, Spencer, Frank B./OG just to name and recognize a few.
From a guy who can relate to trying to herd the cats for a greater good...keep up the great work gents. :D
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Feel free to use ANY shot I've ever taken. If you need a copy, please let me know. I'll be sure to post/tag some to IG in the future. I've never been much into IG, but I need to be (it's a huge tool in the public safety photography world, too, and I need to embrace it more).
I'm down. Add me as an admin if you want. I'm sure I'll be terrible at it, but I shoot enough content that I might as well be able to post some of it from time to time. :D
Awesome, I appreciate it. I'm sure you've noticed my recent tags. If you have some shots of trips/runs that you haven't sent to me, feel free to email them to me. I think you still have my email, if not, I'll shoot you a message.
On the IG note, we're up to about 25 followers, not bad for only two days out there. I'm also working the page so that Nissan aftermarket companies see the page. By doing this, I hope I can bring in some free products that can be given away on here or used to raise funds for supporting the forum and not have to rely on us members to pay for maintenance every year.
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I see there's a socalclubxterra in addition to the new socal_club_xterra on IG......what's that about? It seems brand new as well..only 2 photos that are a couple days old.
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I'm also working the page so that Nissan aftermarket companies see the page. By doing this, I hope I can bring in some free products that can be given away on here or used to raise funds for supporting the forum and not have to rely on us members to pay for maintenance every year.
I'd tread lightly here Rick...bounce this off of Randy and Frank, forum sponsorship has always been frowned upon in this establishment.
Not saying it can't be done...just hasn't been favored in the past.
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I see there's a socalclubxterra in addition to the new socal_club_xterra on IG......what's that about? It seems brand new as well..only 2 photos that are a couple days old.
Not sure, I think someone else was reading through this thread and decided to start a page up too, and didn't see the other one? I think I know who it was, I'll shoot them a PM. The one I'm running is the page with the _ .
I'd tread lightly here Rick...bounce this off of Randy and Frank, forum sponsorship has always been frowned upon in this establishment.
Not saying it can't be done...just hasn't been favored in the past.
Will do, I don't think I'm necessarily looking for sponsorship and I think that's something I'm going to stay away from. Maybe just free stuff, without a kickback to a vendor, if that happens.
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Not opposed to this. If you could do some designs, maybe some rough ideas, I'm into it. I was just talking to a new contact on getting shirts/stickers/patches made so perfect time for a new design.
Jay and I were just talking about this on the Bradshaw. Maybe it would be a good idea for a new logo that is a basic 2-3 color design, to help with printing costs. It would be cool to have limited stickers for specific runs, like TMR, Cerro Gordo, etc. Also, patches are the new thing, that would be a cool idea.
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I've been requesting quotes for patches recently.
They're VERY expensive unless you buy 100pcs.
Jordan's contact seemed willing to work with us on some patches. (stickers, shirts shwag)
New logo would be super cool - But, I'd love to have a big old school logo patch!
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It would be cool to have limited stickers for specific runs, like TMR, Cerro Gordo, etc. Also, patches are the new thing, that would be a cool idea.
We have done this in the past but the problem is the min quantity required leaves me with a bag full of stickers from Mojave rd 2014 / Bradshaw 2014 like I do now. I guess we could leave off the year to help with that issue.
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We have done this in the past but the problem is the min quantity required leaves me with a bag full of stickers from Mojave rd 2014 / Bradshaw 2014 like I do now. I guess we could leave off the year to help with that issue.
I'd like to buy a couple of 2015 Bradshaw and Mojave, if you have
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I've been requesting quotes for patches recently.
They're VERY expensive unless you buy 100pcs.
Jordan's contact seemed willing to work with us on some patches. (stickers, shirts shwag)
New logo would be super cool - But, I'd love to have a big old school logo patch!
We frequently order custom patches for the programs we are testing. I'm putting out feelers now, but I think a lot of places we order from require a minimum of 50 pieces. I'll get back to you, but this will help save $$$ so we don't have to order 100 pieces.
https://patchwarehouse.com/custom-embroidered-patch-pricing.php We can probably get in the $4-$5 range.
I paid $5 a piece for these patches.
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wife is going to get mad at me after finding out I will spend my check on SCCX swag.....
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Take my money! Some new stickers/ patches would be sweet!
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