Southern California Club Xterra
Southern California Club Xterra => SCCX Xcursions => Topic started by: Deadpilot on June 11, 2015, 03:00:49 PM
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To make things easier for trail sign up and all the other important info I created a new thread. This one will have all the most updated info for trails and times and all that so its in one place as we get closer.
The date is Oct 10-12, 1st trail run will be on the 10th and if there is enough people who want to run all three days we can run till 12th or that can be the clean up and head out day just up to masses. There will may be a evening run if for those who want to use all those lights we buy ;)
People can roll up on the 9th to set up camp if they want.
For each run I am asking for a volunteer to be lead and trail preferably those with HAM's incase we have a large group that gets spread out too far for CB's and that know the trails.
Post up your suggestions for the trails and question and comments you may have.
For up to date CANVAZ V information, please visit this thread: CANVAZ V Final Planning & Coordination (http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,3311.0.html)
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Saturday Oct 10th
Green trail: Rattlesnake Canyon
Leader: RBduffer
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Trail: Sage Bromax
Blue trail: Pontiac sluice
Leader:
1: Hammer
2: m.sainz12
3: FBinSD
4: Jayrat
5: Goldfish
6: AZ-TED
7: jvr
8: xxSVxx
9: GlamisDunesStar (possible)
10: GlamisDunesStar (possible)
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Trail: JFanaselle
Black trail (Holcomb)
Meet time 0900
Meet place: Vons
Minimum trail requirements
-3" lift
-33"tires
-Full skids
-F & R bumpers
-Rear locker
-F & R recovery points
-Standard recovery gear
-CB Radio
- a good, patient attitude
- sack lunch and plenty of water
Leader: Toro
1: Scott307
2: TDS George
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Trail:
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Sunday Oct 11th
Green trail: Clarks Grade
Leader:
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Trail
Blue trail (Gold mountain)
Video of the trail https://youtu.be/wgFfI_Fa_38
Requirement.
4x4, full size spare and tools to change the spare.
Sliders if you are not lifted.
Equipment to air down your tires.
Air will be provided for air up at the end of the trail.
If there is time we will run Jacoby also
Leader: Ultrapc40
1: m.sainz12
2: FBinSD
3: Goldfish
4: AZ-TED
5: jvr
6: xxSVxx
7: GlamisDunesStar (possible)
8: GlamisDunesStar (possible)
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Trail: Sage Bromax
Black trail (John bull)
Trail basic requirements:
2-3" lift.
Skids/sliders/armored front bumper.
33's (35's preferable) with close matching proximity spare.
Rear locker mandatory (front locker highly suggested)
recovery points front and rear.
Basic recovery gear, tools, winch is helpful,CB (HAM if ya got it).
Trail food, sleeping bags/blankets/jackets in event of breakdown.
Trail body damage possible/likely.
Leader: Celt
1: TDS George
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Tail
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Monday Oct 12
Last trail run
Green trail (TBD)
Blue trail (TBD)
No black trail for last day unless there enough people that want to push their rig another day.
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Evening trail run (Trail TBD)
Leader:
1: jvr
2: Deadpilot
3: xxSVxx
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Trail
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Reserved
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Reserved
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If the dates don't clash with Mountain Rendezvous I think I will be in for all 3 days. Would be interested in doing mostly blue trails and maybe a green or two.
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Thanks for taking the lead on this Jason...let me know if you need any help.
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Not a problem. And when I need some help I'll ask thanks.
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If the dates don't clash with Mountain Rendezvous I think I will be in for all 3 days. Would be interested in doing mostly blue trails and maybe a green or two.
MRV is late August. (28-30)
Registration (http://americanadventurist.com/Forum/showthread.php?2734-2015-SoCal-Mountain-Rendezvous-Official-Thread) opens Wednesday, June 17th.
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I'd like to throw my name into the hat for this one. It would be good to see a John Bull run on the list for my vote.
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I'll lead Black trail Holcomb on the 10th 0900 meet at Vons.
Minimum trail requirements
-3" lift
-33"tires
-Full skids
-F & R bumpers
-Rear locker
-F & R recovery points
-Standard recovery gear
-CB Radio
- a good, patient attitude
- sack lunch and plenty of water
Thanks Jason.
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I'll lead Black trail Holcomb on the 10th 0800 meet at Vons
Thanks Jason.
I'll be your Huckleberry for that run.
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I can take blue Gold Mtn. Saturday or Sunday. Lead or trail don't matter
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Sign me up for the Saturday (10/10/15) Blue Trail run. I have HAM but am not really competent enough to lead, especially since I'm unfamiliar with the trails in the area. I can tail-gun if someone more experienced doesn't offer to.
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Sign me up for the Saturday (10/10/15) Blue Trail run. I have HAM but am not really competent enough to lead, especially since I'm unfamiliar with the trails in the area. I can tail-gun if someone more experienced doesn't offer to.
Bro, I thought you were gonna run the John Bull with me what gives???
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hahaha.... maybe if I had lockers, bumpers and full skids. :)
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hahaha.... maybe if I had lockers, bumpers and full skids. :)
I have a winch and a yank strap. My old man is a tv repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.
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I have a winch, a yank strap and an awesome set of tools. My old man is a tv repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.
Dude!!!
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Looking forward to this, no lockers so I'll stick to blue. I haven't been up there and don't know the trails, but could def tail gun. Have a CB and Ham.
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Sorry for the delay in update the trail post. I just got out of the hospital today so I can work on that while I just sit in bed
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For those that aren't that familiar with big bear here's a broad map of the area.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/15/fb37eebd7a5914fc21dfc9c22c8a8b39.jpg)
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New updates with trails and other stuff
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Hopefully someone volunteers to lead John Bull and Dishpan, those two need to be on the schedule. Unfortunately I don't know if I can go nor do I have a Ham or I would lead both. Fingers crossed.
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Here is another map from the USFS showing the lower trails as well:
http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5156660.pdf (http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5156660.pdf)
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Hopefully someone volunteers to lead John Bull and Dishpan, those two need to be on the schedule. Unfortunately I don't know if I can go nor do I have a Ham or I would lead both. Fingers crossed.
I'm waiting to hear back to see if we have a leader for John bull. But I'm sure John bull will be a for sure run. What color is Dishpan?
We need some more blue and green trail ideas
Here is another map from the USFS showing the lower trails as well:
http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5156660.pdf (http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5156660.pdf)
That's a great map. Thanks for posting it
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So I must have been looking at the calendar wrong. Columbus day is the 12th which Monday. So I was off. So the days are gonna slide to right a day. 1st run will be sat the 10th and the last run will be on the 12th if there is enough interest.
People can still come out on Friday Oct 9th and set up camp or hotel.
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Dishpan is black, more difficult than Holcomb and less difficult than John Bull.
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Ah OK. Maybe a last day run option then
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I think Celt volunteered to lead the John Bull run
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Yes he did. It's updated on the Sunday Oct 11th runs date
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I'd be willing to run tail on the John Bull run
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I agree with labeling Gold Mountain as blue, but the trail is official rated black by the forest service:
Also known as 3N69, the Gold Mountain Trail heads up from Big Pine Flat Trail to the peak of Gold Mountain. This trail is rated "Most Difficult" by the Forest Service, and should only be attempted in high-clearance vehicles. There are several challenging rock gardens towards the top of the mountain. Part of the trail has a bypass known as 3N69A that is more difficult.
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We are definitely interested in attending this; but we are waiting to sign up for trails until we know what will actually be on our rig. Waiting for bumpers, skids, etc to show up. If all goes according to plan, we should be able to handle Blue Trails and the Night Run.
No Black trails for us - no locker or other required setups.
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I agree with labeling Gold Mountain as blue, but the trail is official rated black by the forest service:
Also known as 3N69, the Gold Mountain Trail heads up from Big Pine Flat Trail to the peak of Gold Mountain. This trail is rated "Most Difficult" by the Forest Service, and should only be attempted in high-clearance vehicles. There are several challenging rock gardens towards the top of the mountain. Part of the trail has a bypass known as 3N69A that is more difficult.
I saw that it was officially rated as black but was told it's more like a blue trail. So that's why it's there. I never ran it before so I wouldn't know.
But it goes with out saying that ya sign up and run the trails at your own risk. Trail conditions can change at any time.
We are definitely interested in attending this; but we are waiting to sign up for trails until we know what will actually be on our rig. Waiting for bumpers, skids, etc to show up. If all goes according to plan, we should be able to handle Blue Trails and the Night Run.
No Black trails for us - no locker or other required setups.
Well there is plenty of time to get working on things.
My X isn't even finished yet and hasn't been tested off road yet...
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Did some work on the computer today and got a rough draft of sticker made up for this run.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/16/96fbf84bb5ae002b47e0200ed53d0a48.jpg)
If anyone wants to finish it up a little better or has something to add to it let me know. Again this is just some I came up with today.
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I tried this using the states design idea you have Jason. I can clean up some of the edges if need be.
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x326/thegreyhats/CANVAZ.png)
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Did some work on the computer today and got a rough draft of sticker made up for this run.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/16/96fbf84bb5ae002b47e0200ed53d0a48.jpg)
If anyone wants to finish it up a little better or has something to add to it let me know. Again this is just some I came up with today.
That's a great idea and looks good too!
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Are you guys gonna have stickers printed? If your doing vinyl cuts Pinchel does those, but you wouldn't have multiple color options.
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I'm in for the blue run on Saturday and Sunday. Unless someone has an open passenger seat for me ride along for the John bull run
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I'm in for blue trail on Sat and Sun also
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Are you guys gonna have stickers printed? If your doing vinyl cuts Pinchel does those, but you wouldn't have multiple color options.
I have few different places that I've used while I was active duty and the stickers will last awhile and not fade.
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Here's option 1 for the sticker. Tomorrow I'll have option two done.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/18/7105c1d6d1a70f4819e3f9052013174c.jpg)
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Sign me up for Saturday's Blue Run Plz.
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I'd be willing to run tail on the John Bull run
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Sounds good to me, we can get Deadpilot to put you down on the list. Good meeting you tonight at the food truck meet.
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Listed are updated.
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Here's option 2
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/19/84721dcadc2728435d12bb933ce8a7dc.jpg)
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I like the "cleaned up" version of the round one best (the one Alex posted)
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So with the fire up in BB area we will have to watch to see what trails get closed and stay closed due to fire damage. With that said we will need some back up trails and or a back site.
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As for stickers I'll post a poll to vote on them
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As for stickers I'll post a poll to vote on them
That last one you came up with was super cool.
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Please put me on the list for blue trail Sat and Sunday.
Thanks.
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Put me down for Holcomb on Saturday
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For what my .02 is worth, I really liked the Canvas scroll on the top and the date on the lower scroll better with the three states in the middle.
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So far we have at least one 2wd planning on attending, and a stock 1st gen 4x4. Will the green trail be 2wd capable, and what are the requirements for blue?
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So far we have at least one 2wd planning on attending, and a stock 1st gen 4x4. Will the green trail be 2wd capable, and what are the requirements for blue?
Thanks for asking hammer. I was gonna just show up and go for it lol
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hammer, I have taken stock Xterra through gold Mtn before. There are a two spot that they will have difficulty but with spotting and rock stacking they should get through.
As long as they have front and rear recovery points a positive attitude and not afraid of crazy rock noises they will be ok.
I would however strongly recommend rock sliders for the stock 1st gen.
For Saturday blue maybe rattle snake? I never ran it so someone will have to lead.
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For Saturday blue maybe rattle snake? I never ran it so someone will have to lead.
Might even call this a green
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It has been more than ten years since I have run any of these trails. But I do have CB and Ham and am very comfortable with being tailgunner on any blues or greens that you need. My 2015 P4X doesn't have any suspension mods, but I do have a Lokka in the front, sliders, recovery points and will have a front winch by then.
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In on the blues with the Titan.
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Is there a hotel, cabin's or campground everyone is staying at?
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It has been more than ten years since I have run any of these trails. But I do have CB and Ham and am very comfortable with being tailgunner on any blues or greens that you need. My 2015 P4X doesn't have any suspension mods, but I do have a Lokka in the front, sliders, recovery points and will have a front winch by then.
I put you down for trail on Saturday's Green Trail which is isnt known yet and Sundays Blue trail. If there is not enough for a green run we may just move those over to the Blue run on Sat, since it is close to being either one. Let me know if there is any issues
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Is there a hotel, cabin's or campground everyone is staying at?
Not yet that I know of.
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Trails lists are updated. Still need trail suggestions for some of the days and more people to sign up. So far is noone from Nevada coming down? I'll post up NewX since I think they are hiding on there.
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Was really getting excited about this Xcursion, but now unable to attend now, family obligations..... :( :(
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A good blue trail is Gold Mountain.
A nice green trail is Rattlesnake Canyon.
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I'd be happy to lead or tailgun for a green trail either day.
I'll check for green trail options.
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I'd be happy to lead or tailgun for a green trail either day.
I'll check for green trail options.
Hey Randy
Would you lead Rattlesnake canyon on Saturday?
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We could also use Pontiac sluice as a Blue for Sunday.
Jacoby canyon or Clarks Grade as a green.
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I put you down for trail on Saturday's Green Trail which is isnt known yet and Sundays Blue trail. If there is not enough for a green run we may just move those over to the Blue run on Sat, since it is close to being either one. Let me know if there is any issues
I'm your huckleberry.
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I want to go how do I do it ???
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Pick your trails and just post a reply and I'll add you in.
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I'll update the trail post later today.
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We could also use Pontiac sluice as a Blue for Sunday.
Jacoby canyon or Clarks Grade as a green.
Where is Toro for the John Bull....?.?.?.? Jump on it brother and grab the "Bull" by the horns...
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I want to go how do I do it ???
We are very inclusive here jvr. You are certainly welcome, and if you haven't already, please spend some time searching our site to get a feel for what you need, in order to be safe and happy ( food, water, spare, tools, etc.) on an outting. Everyone is very helpful but self-sufficient at the same time. You may want to tell us a little about yourself and you X in the mew members forum. See ya on the trail.
Anyway, I can lead Clarks and/or Jacoby, and with a little help, Rattlesnake no problem.
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Anyway, I can lead Clarks and/or Jacoby, and with a little help, Rattlesnake no problem.
Welcome JVR....and, yeah, check out some of the Xcursion threads to get familiar with what's expected and needed on the trails..
And there's a short video of none other than THE DUFFMAN leading Jacoby Canyon on the last CANVAZ in October, 2012....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48-gw9-PTNA
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Trails are updated just need more people to sign up.
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Thanks guys for the info I will be signing up for my first trip with other X owners thanks for the welcoming I definitely will be posting more about my self on the new members forum see you on the trail :D
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Ok sign me up for the blue trail and night run
Maybe all 3 days
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Anyone knows a hotel nearby to the trails
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Any hotel in big bear would suffice
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Anyone knows a hotel nearby to the trails
Big Bear Frontier is nice...central, and was used for CANVAZ in 2012.
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Thanks man
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So whats would be a good trail to run for the evening run? Thoughts on Butler Peak? Anyone run that one?
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please put me down for blue on both Saturday and Sunday, and a maybe for the night run....we'll see how blue treats her ;)
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So whats would be a good trail to run for the evening run? Thoughts on Butler Peak? Anyone run that one?
My vote would be the "Sailor Jerry" run during the evening...... The only problem is it can go from green to double black in no time.
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Last time we did the 1st half of Clarks Grade. That was a nice chill trail for everyone to run their light bars.
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No black trails for me if my baby breaks a nail I'll be really sad
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MY HUSBAND AND I
SAT
PONTIAC SLUICE
SUN
GOLD MOUNTAIN
If possible, depends on work...
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Is this trip still happening I haven't heard nothing no updates on anything
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That's what I've been thinking ??? ::)
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Sorry for not doing updates on this. But this is still happening there just isn't much to update at this time.
There may some trails drop due to lack of people being able to come but I've notice money is starting to get tight across the board for people so we will see if there any last minute adds
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So are we camping? If people are hoteling, I will stay at my friends rents up there. If we are camping I will tow the frontier so I can sleep in the dodge.
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I'm staying in the lodge.
Has it been determined if this event is Friday through Sunday or Saturday through Monday? I'm taking Friday and Monday off and ready to make it 4 days in the mountains.
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So I have some bad news as of right now. I've been having some issues with a bad drive train vibration and I don't think I'm going to have it fixed in time. So I won't be able to go but I'll still do the planning.
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So I have some bad news as of right now. I've been having some issues with a bad drive train vibration and I don't think I'm going to have it fixed in time. So I won't be able to go but I'll still do the planning.
You still have a month you can do it bro 8)
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So I have some bad news as of right now. I've been having some issues with a bad drive train vibration and I don't think I'm going to have it fixed in time. So I won't be able to go but I'll still do the planning.
With this news it looks like I will be leading,midgun and tail gunner for the trip..... Ahem, Toro ......
Hey guys, John Bull is a lot of fun, it's certainly not the trail of automatic death.
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is anyone camping? i'm looking to camp out for the weekend and maybe crash ur site if u gotz space fer another truck n tent!
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I may be able to swing a one nighter up there and run John Bull with you Erik...Just have to see where the kid's schedule puts me that weekend! I'll keep ya posted! I would love to test out the new ARB fridge and run John Bull as a pre-run to the 5 day Death Valley trip in November!
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I haven't been following this thread and am just now getting on board.
But, where is everyone camping? Is everyone camping together?
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That's one part I didn't put together figured it was easier to let the mass mass were ever is most convenient.
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I haven't been following this thread and am just now getting on board.
But, where is everyone camping? Is everyone camping together?
You goin Steve-O???
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Possibly, I'd really like to get out with SCCX especially since this one is practically in my back yard.
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Possibly, I'd really like to get out with SCCX especially since this one is practically in my back yard.
Were running the John Bull........"Ahem".... "Ahem"........ I know that Pathy is getting bored just sittin around lookin all sad and needs to stretch a bit.
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;D :o ::) I need a place to stay can anybody share campground space
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I may be able to swing a one nighter up there and run John Bull with you Erik...Just have to see where the kid's schedule puts me that weekend! I'll keep ya posted! I would love to test out the new ARB fridge and run John Bull as a pre-run to the 5 day Death Valley trip in November!
That would be great, I'm very close to cancelling because it seems that nobody wants to run that trail on this event for whatever reason. I have another buddy who may attend that's not on the forums so with three trucks that would be about perfect.
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I'd love to do John Bull if I am in town that weekend, but I can't commit to anything right now.
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If you are cool with Jeeps going, i can see if I can get a few to run JB with you. I am hoping to get the rear locker installed. Never done JB so not sure if I will make it.
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If you are cool with Jeeps going, i can see if I can get a few to run JB with you. I am hoping to get the rear locker installed. Never done JB so not sure if I will make it.
My buddy that drives a Wrangler wants to come along, I just don't know what the organizer(s) want i.e. Nissan only event? I personally don't care if you drive a soap box with a Yugo motor in it as long as you want to go have some fun and the vehicle is capable. Hopefully I can get someone to chime in on this.
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I asked that same question in the other thread before the official thread started, and received the response that all are welcome:
This may be a silly question, and please don't flame me for asking - but since this isn't an "officially sanctioned" event, are we ok with extending invites to family and friends with capable vehicles that aren't of the Nissan variety? Or do we prefer to limit this to just Frontiers and Xterras from the tri-state area?
Some "regulars" come to mind, including my cousin with his F-150 and Celt's dad with his Jeep.
This is for anyone. Trails will have "requirements" to make sure the odds of spending the night on the trail are reduced. But other than that, all is fair game.
We had a jeep on the trail with us last time.
I have a few Tacoma and Jeep buddies that might join us too.
Not sure if any of that has changed, but I was still planning on inviting my cousin.
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I asked that same question in the other thread before the official thread started, and received the response that all are welcome:
Not sure if any of that has changed, but I was still planning on inviting my cousin.
Well there you go, thanks for the information!
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I say who ever wants to come that is fine. Just don't have them do a trail that their rig isn't capable of doing.
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I say who ever wants to come that is fine. Just don't have them do a trail that their rig isn't capable of doing.
The rig, AND the driver :P
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;D :o ::) I need a place to stay can anybody share campground space
Hey guys, Jason has a lot to handle here, especially since he can't make it :'(
To start with, is anybody (christiaan, maybe?) willing to wear the Camp Master hat, to organize the campers and forward a list for Jason to add to his front page?
Jason, How many 'NAVAZ' guys do we have comming so far? Is there any talk on their websites, I'm embarassed that I don't even know there sites and have not checked.
If you or anyone here knows please chime in.
Lastly, I just got back from 'my honeymoon' and have been out of the loop, so if this post is out dated, my apologies :-*
Thank you Jason for taking on this PITA duty for our notaclub group ;)
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I'll help organize camping if that's ok w/ everyone
CANVAZ II camping thread: http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,1533.0.html
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I've never been wheeling in Big Bear, but if I can be help in some way let me know
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Looks like I'm going to have to drop out of Toro's trail on the 10th due to family schedule. I'll be able to make it up there sometime Saturday afternoon. I'm still planning on leading John Bull on the 11th. Thus far it looks like myself and a buddy from work along with (Hopefully) Motorpig77. I was tossing around the idea of staying at Heart Bar campground. I stayed there about 2 years ago before I ran John Bull with Terry and Nick and Sergio and thought it was a real nice campground with room for all of our vehicles and tents etc. I know guys are running all sorts of trails and would love to meet up with the masses. What is the group consensus?
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I've currently got 7 people listed as going. I'm going to bump my thread and try to get some confirmations out of people but I believe everyone is planning on camping. Where will we be camping and do I need to call and reserve spots?
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Let's get a roll call going of how many we're looking at and I'll figure out what we can do about spots...
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Let's get a roll call going of how many we're looking at and I'll figure out what we can do about spots...
Sounds good buddy, in my small group there will be 2 vehicles and six people. I would prefer to camp near everyone instead of all scattered about.
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As of now, I plan on driving up the hill each day and staying at home instead of camping (it's only about an hour for me from home to Big Bear). This may change as we get closer to the event, but I'll wait to see how the arrangements for everyone are shaping up and make my decision based on that (if there's extra space, who is coming with me, etc.)
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Just Me and the Rig
So 1
and hell ya I'm Camping
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Me too just me and my truck the girlfriend don't want to go :D :D :D
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Mr. and Mrs. Duffman camping Fri. and Sat. with the fun-V ;)
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I will be camping Friday and Saturday. At this point, I think I'll be solo.
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FYI:
Hanna Flat and Crab Flats are two popular CG's.
Crab Flat is far away from the main trails (west)...BUT, 3N16 runs right behind the CG, so an easy fire road connector to John Bull/Dishpan Springs etc.
Jacoby Cyn. and Gold Mountain are farther away (east), so Hanna Flat is a better CG for those. You could hit Gold Mtn. and Jacoby Cyn. from 3N16, but you would need to plan for a bit of back roads drive time to make the trail heads.
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You also have Serrano Campground which is near the Discovery Center. Nice campground.
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Hey guys, Jason has a lot to handle here, especially since he can't make it :'(
To start with, is anybody (christiaan, maybe?) willing to wear the Camp Master hat, to organize the campers and forward a list for Jason to add to his front page?
Jason, How many 'NAVAZ' guys do we have comming so far? Is there any talk on their websites, I'm embarassed that I don't even know there sites and have not checked.
If you or anyone here knows please chime in.
Lastly, I just got back from 'my honeymoon' and have been out of the loop, so if this post is out dated, my apologies :-*
Thank you Jason for taking on this PITA duty for our notaclub group ;)
Last I checked there was no one coming from NV and we have a few from AZ. I cant see anything on newX or AZXC so I dont know the updates over there. And Ive had issues with gettting on here too so Ill try and update this.
And if anyone wants to take on making up stickers please let met know.
Sorry that I had I have to drop out from the run but theres no way Im getting my X done and ready for drive up there alone and then beating it up on the trails when I havent had time for a break in run. Just alittle too much for it even if I get it done by then.
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Please add my friend George (TDS George) to John Bull and Holcomb Creek. He will either bring a grand Cherokee or a JK.
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Please add my friend George (TDS George) to John Bull and Holcomb Creek. He will either bring a grand Cherokee or a JK.
So thus far there will be 3 (maybe) 4 on the John Bull. That's about the perfect number to run it. Can you tell me what he's equipped with i.e. HAM/CB front/rear lockers and winch. It's important to be able to know where to add them into the conga line.
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he will be fine. both jeeps are fully locked, ham, don't think he has a winch on the JK. He usually leads my groups run on the more difficult trails
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he will be fine. both jeeps are fully locked, ham, don't think he has a winch on the JK. He usually leads my groups run on the more difficult trails
Ok thanks much!
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CAMPING THREAD:
http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,3294.0.html
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I'm noticing that a lot of people who said they are coming aren't signed up for any of the runs. Not that it's really a big deal, but I was trying to decide what runs to do myself and looking at the lists isn't giving me a good size up of what's going down. Being my first CANVAZ event, I'll just ask - is it normally a pretty loose/casual event to the point that you just show up at the meet spot for a run in the morning if you want to do it? I just wouldn't want to see a trail leader have no one show up (for example: RBduffer is the only one signed up for the Rattlesnake Canyon run on Saturday so far), or have 38 rigs show up for another one.
As of now, it looks like I'm going to do a Saturday run (I'm currently signed up for Pontiac Sluice) and a Sunday run. My cousin who is coming with me is actually leaving for a cross country trip in his truck three days after this event, so he wants to take it easy and make sure he doesn't break anything. This means I might actually switch to a green run for Saturday.
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Well, I am slated to be tailgunner on Rattlesnake on Saturday, so RB won't be alone.
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Have we talked about the evening trail?
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Hi Guys...My family and I (wife and 2 kids) are interested in the Rattlesnake Canyon run on Saturday for our first trip in our Xterra. I just have a few questions. I assume this is an easy trail? How many hours will it take to finish? Will I need anything else besides a stock 4x4? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks
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Hi Guys...My family and I (wife and 2 kids) are interested in the Rattlesnake Canyon run on Saturday for our first trip in our Xterra. I just have a few questions. I assume this is an easy trail? How many hours will it take to finish? Will I need anything else besides a stock 4x4? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks
It is a Green trail, so stock vehicle and novice skills should be sufficient. How long it takes depends on how many we wind up with in the group and if there are any mechanical issues. I would plan on bringing lunch along, especially with kids.
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Hi Guys...My family and I (wife and 2 kids) are interested in the Rattlesnake Canyon run on Saturday for our first trip in our Xterra. I just have a few questions. I assume this is an easy trail? How many hours will it take to finish? Will I need anything else besides a stock 4x4? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks
This is a green trail, but you need to be prepared.
Can you tell us a little about your Xterra? (Year, modifications, tires?)
As far as the trail timing, it depends on the number of rigs tackling it.
A stock 4x4 "can" complete this trail...with good spotting...and if you air down to at least 18-20 lbs in all four tires. Bring a tire gauge, and an alternative air source (air compressor) to air back up at the end of the trail.
This is an excellent trail, if you are prepared and have the appropriate expectations.
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Sorry guys, I've been out of town again. I had to smuggle Cubans (cigars not refugees) into Monaco for Prince Albert... or was it Herb Albert?
Anywho, typically we try to get a 'feel' for the interest in the trails that the trail masters have volunteered to run. We will have a general meeting spot each morning to sort out the details. If a Trail Master wishes they can have their own meeting spot if it helps logistically.
Night runs are handled similarly but even more loosely. Find the trails you like, know who the TM is and follow this thread and you will be fine. Stupid questions are the ones not asked...really stupid questions will be mocked ;)
Be sure to check out the CANAVAZ camping thread for any questions there.
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Whoever is running the John Bull with me on Sunday Oct 11th please meet up at the Fawnskin Ranger station. Since people will be coming from different spots I want to leave there NLT 1000. If I don't have your cell phone # please pm it to me so I can make sure any last minute changes are handled. Ultrapac40, can you pm me your friends number if he doesn't mind.
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OK so I finally was able to get on my computer to update the run rosters. So if you guys can look it over and see if I missed anything, or anyone.
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Celt. Message sent. He is bring the JK. The Grand Cherokee blew a hose and killed he engine. He donated it. Man some lucky guy is going to get a sweet rig.
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This is a green trail, but you need to be prepared.
Can you tell us a little about your Xterra? (Year, modifications, tires?)
As far as the trail timing, it depends on the number of rigs tackling it.
A stock 4x4 "can" complete this trail...with good spotting...and if you air down to at least 18-20 lbs in all four tires. Bring a tire gauge, and an alternative air source (air compressor) to air back up at the end of the trail.
This is an excellent trail, if you are prepared and have the appropriate expectations.
I have a 2012 S 4x4 with 275/70R16 BFG All Terrain T/A KO Tires, front and rear tow points, minor hand tools, tow strap, tire gauge and cheap air compressor. I didn't think spotting and air down would be needed for a green trail?
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Airs down just makes things more comfortable.
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OK so I finally was able to get on my computer to update the run rosters. So if you guys can look it over and see if I missed anything, or anyone.
Can you add Dany on the John Bull please. He's not on these forums but is going to be there for the run.
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I'll being doing the black trails on both days. I got me some skid plates and I want to beat them up. >:D
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I have a 2012 S 4x4 with 275/70R16 BFG All Terrain T/A KO Tires, front and rear tow points, minor hand tools, tow strap, tire gauge and cheap air compressor.
Excellent...all of that should prepare you for Rattlesnake Canyon.
I didn't think spotting and air down would be needed for a green trail?
Well...90% of the trail can be run without spotters. And this will be up to the trail leader as to how they run RC...but airing down is always a good idea when we wheel together as a group.
It improves your ride (main reason) and contact/traction patch across rocks/sand...of which RC is 100% comprised of.
Our goal as a group is to ensure that new peeps set the appropriate expectations for our Xcursions...and a trail leader running a Titan Swap with aftermarket coil overs and 35" tires might present a Green Trail a little differently than a trail leader running a stock Xterra. We have many many folks that expected a completely guided tour (aka: Jurassic Park) and others that arrive at the trail head with all the tools and knowledge appropriate to the run.
Some have run RC and considered it a milk run...while others have run it and lost step rails, mud flaps, and their minds in the process, never to return for another Xcursion.
You sound well prepared from your mods and tools mentioned..which is awesome. 8)
Looking forward to meeting you on the trial sometime... :)
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Well done GeoYota!
JCX, this was my first trail with my stock rig. It's a great trail with just 2 or 3 spots that will let you know how cool you X is. Remove the sissy side steps and rear mud flaps or the trail might:D Otherwise you sound good to go. The trail loop should take about 5 hours.
These are all good questions, as I'm sure many others were wondering the same thing but are too shy.
Sunday we will have a 'very green' fire road, senic trail, that's 2-wheel friendly as well.
Look forward to meeting you and yours.
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Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like a lot of fun. Please sign me up for Sat. RC run. At this point, I am pretty sure I can make it. BTW - No side steps and mud flaps were removed the day after I got the X home. Hope to meet all of you too.
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I got a pretty much a stock xterra I only have 2 inch lift kit and skit plates from a off road model And 265/70/17 open country tires what kind of trail do you guys recommend me I believe I sign up for the blue trail but I don't know if I can make it on my xterra I don't have a CB radio
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You will be fine in blue that I lead Sunday. We will spot you if needed.
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If anyone is still updating the lists - I'm going to switch from the blue trail to the green trail for Saturday the 10th, due to my cousin not wanting to run a blue just before leaving town for a big trip. So myself in the X and my cousin in his F-150 will be running RBDuffer's Rattlesnake Canyon trip on the 10th, and the blue trail will need a new tail gunner for that day (looks like a lot of people are signed up for that run, so hopefully that's not an issue).
RBDuffer - is there a meet place and time yet for the Saturday Rattlesnake Canyon run? Also, what is your planned loop (just curious)? Are you thinking Hwy 18/247 from Big Bear down into Johnson Valley and then run Rattlesnake Canyon to 2N02 back up to Baldwin Lake?
Still not sure what I'm going to do for Sunday the 11th. My wife and I need to get back down the hill in the early afternoon to pick up our son, so I'm out for Gold Mountain due to time. Might just be Saturday for us as far as trail runs.
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If anyone is still updating the lists - I'm going to switch from the blue trail to the green trail for Saturday the 10th, due to my cousin not wanting to run a blue just before leaving town for a big trip. So myself in the X and my cousin in his F-150 will be running RBDuffer's Rattlesnake Canyon trip on the 10th, and the blue trail will need a new tail gunner for that day (looks like a lot of people are signed up for that run, so hopefully that's not an issue).
Still not sure what I'm going to do for Sunday the 11th. My wife and I need to get back down the hill in the early afternoon to pick up our son, so I'm out for Gold Mountain due to time. Might just be Saturday for us as far as trail runs.
John Bull is open for Sunday the 11th.... Just sayin
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What time do you have to be down the Mtn?
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I'd need to be back down in the Riverside area by 2:00 PM. By the time I break camp in the morning, I'll have 2.5-3 hours to run a trail and get on the main highway. Like I said, I'm leaning toward doing my own thing Sunday, maybe even just hanging around town with my wife. We don't get up to Big Bear often anyway.
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RBDuffer - is there a meet place and time yet for the Saturday Rattlesnake Canyon run? Also, what is your planned loop (just curious)? Are you thinking Hwy 18/247 from Big Bear down into Johnson Valley and then run Rattlesnake Canyon to 2N02 back up to Baldwin Lake?
Hey Joe, glad to have you guys. And yes, the 18 to 247 to RSC to 2n02 loop. My guess is the discovery center would be a good meet up spot at 10 or ?, so we can enjoy a good camp breakfast or for the folks that are driving up that morning. I am always open to good ideas though.
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Vons Shopping Center, Big Bear Lake
42170 Big Bear Blvd
Big Bear Lake, CA 92315
This has been a popular meet up place for the Xcursions I've been on in Big Bear....big parking lot, amenities close by (Starbucks, Vons, even gas close)....
Just my .02
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I'll being doing the black trails on both days. I got me some skid plates and I want to beat them up. >:D
You joining us on the JB the 11th? Only reason I ask is because the lists have become a little disjointed and I need to figure out who is going so I'm not herding cats the morning of the run. Please PM me your cell beforehand.
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Vons Shopping Center, Big Bear Lake
42170 Big Bear Blvd
Big Bear Lake, CA 92315
This has been a popular meet up place for the Xcursions I've been on in Big Bear....big parking lot, amenities close by (Starbucks, Vons, even gas close)....
Just my .02
You know what?, maybe we should all just meet here, campers and day-trailers, just so nobody gets left behind. Or for last minute info or changes.
Please pipe up with any comments or other suggestions gang.
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You know what?, maybe we should all just meet here, campers and day-trailers, just so nobody gets left behind. Or for last minute info or changes.
Please pipe up with any comments or other suggestions gang.
That's a great meeting spot for folks that need last minute ice etc. The only thing I would offer up is since it appears the majority is staying at Hanna Flat campground it's a longer drive to go across the lake and into town then turn right around to go back north to the trails. At least for the trail I'm leading, I requested folks meet me at the Fawnskin Visitors Center/Ranger Station so we can get on the trail a little quicker.
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That's a great meeting spot for folks that need last minute ice etc. The only thing I would offer up is since it appears the majority is staying at Hanna Flat campground it's a longer drive to go across the lake and into town then turn right around to go back north to the trails. At least for the trail I'm leading, I requested folks meet me at the Fawnskin Visitors Center/Ranger Station so we can get on the trail a little quicker.
yeah, I can definitely see that being a small issue, but it was more offered up as a general meet-up place....plus, there has been some shenanigans going on in that parking lot prior to runs....
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I'm open to either day. In the past everybody met at Vons then left from there. It gave us a chance to meet everybody and load up supplies.
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yeah, I can definitely see that being a small issue, but it was more offered up as a general meet-up place....plus, there has been some shenanigans going on in that parking lot prior to runs....
I always like Shenanigans............
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If it's okay with you guys, I'm going to ask Jason if I can help with the final coordination of this event.
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Sign me up for John Bull on Sunday and I'd like to do a Saturday night run.
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What days are going to be the blue trails so I know what day to come down to the lake
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If it's okay with you guys, I'm going to ask Jason if I can help with the final coordination of this event.
Thanks Toro...
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With Jason's consent, we have set up a new CANVAZ V planning thread.
Post all of your event, individual run, and rig comments and questions there
For up to date CANVAZ V information, please visit this thread: CANVAZ V Final Planning & Coordination
(http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php/topic,3311.0.html)