Southern California Club Xterra
Southern California Club Xterra => SCCX Xcursions => Topic started by: Soylent Yellow on January 06, 2009, 06:25:31 PM
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Mod day at my house on Saturday, January 31, 2009. Start time is 9 am. Let me know if you're coming and I'll PM my info.
BTW, I deleted the other post to limit the confusion. I appologize for any inconvenience.
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I'm in I will be installing rear shackels and frount shocks
will be doing the rear shocks if they come in time
PS other that the bolts what eals should i hit with the WD 40
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PS other that the bolts what eals should i hit with the WD 40
Anything that will be coming off. If you're going to take it off, spray it.
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I'll be there. No work that needs to be done, so I'll just supervise, and occasionally channel Fire Marshall / Safety Inspector Dan. Unless, of course, Dan shows up, in which case he can do that himself.
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Sorry I just found out today that we are celebrating my fathers 80th birthday on that Saturday
So I am out :(
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Thanks for hosting Mitch. I might try to come. I need to do my knock sensor bypass. If this is not an X rated mod day, I might bring another Frontier along.
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Thanks for hosting Mitch. I might try to come. I need to do my knock sensor bypass. If this is not an X rated mod day, I might bring another Frontier along.
It's all good.
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Sorry I just found out today that we are celebrating my fathers 80th birthday on that Saturday
So I am out :(
Carlos, there will be other mod days. Enjoy the day with your father, and wish him a happy birthday from all of us.
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I am in now that we firmed up. I am going to help with a diff drop since we are doing mitches truck first to see if it works, lol. I still have the instructions electronically mitch. Might have a reservist prospective member in tow. He hasnt gotten back to me and was interested in our discussion. He has a gen 1 2004.
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What is a diff drop and what does it do
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What is a diff drop and what does it do
drops the front differential for more lift whilst keeping your CVs from having acute angles
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im going to show up in the rover and park across the street and stare at you guys.
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im going to show up in the rover and park across the street and stare at you guys.
Oh yeah I forgot, I now need tpo bring some eggs for Rover peeps
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im going to show up in the rover and park across the street and stare at you guys.
Oh yeah I forgot, I now need tpo bring some eggs for Rover peeps
Damn straight.
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im going to show up in the rover and park across the street and stare at you guys.
Oh yeah I forgot, I now need tpo bring some eggs for Rover peeps
Damn straight.
Just don't hit Kayla!
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What's the lawn mower for? :-\
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What's the lawn mower for? :-\
I think they were at a clean-up taking junk out of Calico
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What's the lawn mower for? :-\
oz is correct. clean up in barstow though. trying to help keep our deserts open.
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this was after 4 hours... all those tires/ 6 dumpsters and i even got to pull a car out
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next time you guys should come out, it's actually really fun.
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hey thanks guys for doing the work and keeping our trails open..............
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if you guys don't mind having me watching all ur mod work (I'm don't know if I can help mechanically not very inclined) I would love to join in the fun.. Maybe I can pick up some pointers on installing my shackle and spacer kit..
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if you guys don't mind having me watching all ur mod work (I'm don't know if I can help mechanically not very inclined) I would love to join in the fun.. Maybe I can pick up some pointers on installing my shackle and spacer kit..
Come join the fun. We'll find sometihng for you to do.
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Come join the fun. We'll find sometihng for you to do.
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Great, I'm there.. Maybe I can do the beer and pizza run!
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FYI for mod days at Mitch's house, when he hosts he requests that they be alcohol-free.
Pizza, on the other hand, I'm sure he'd be down for.
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IMO everything involving Wheeling should be alcohol-free.
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FYI for mod days at Mitch's house, when he hosts he requests that they be alcohol-free.
Pizza, on the other hand, I'm sure he'd be down for.
My fault, I should have asked before I posted.. I'm there to do the pizza and chips run!
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I would bring these but they are banned in Torrance (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/62/218784818_b9768ec9ec.jpg)
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I would bring these but they are banned in Torrance (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/62/218784818_b9768ec9ec.jpg)
Yeah, but you have to drive through Riverside to get to Indio. I'm sure you won't have any trouble finding them there.
Hope to see you there John.
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Banned in Torrance and yet he has a personal photo of them. Hmmmm.....
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FYI for mod days at Mitch's house, when he hosts he requests that they be alcohol-free.
Pizza, on the other hand, I'm sure he'd be down for.
My fault, I should have asked before I posted.. I'm there to do the pizza and chips run!
Only Wrong question is one not asked
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ok I held off a long time before I ask. Mitch what is with the ??? of DOOM. Did I miss something? ???
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ok I held off a long time before I ask. Mitch what is with the ??? of DOOM. Did I miss something? ???
Maybe Mitch is planning to show off his surgery scars. That would be scary.
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ok I held off a long time before I ask. Mitch what is with the ??? of DOOM. Did I miss something? ???
Maybe Mitch is planning to show off his surgery scars. That would be scary.
So... that would be the "Scary Surgery Scars... of DOOM?" ;D
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ok I held off a long time before I ask. Mitch what is with the ??? of DOOM. Did I miss something? ???
It adds an element of danger. Which is nice.
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well Mitches doctors has said he isnt capable of using hand tools, so the potential to have a MOD DAY OF DOOM ever is present . We will have to make sur ehe has ten fingers and toes when the day is completed.
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Looks like Bruce from Suspension.com is sending me a diff drop kit just in time for the Mod Day of Doom. Hopefully it won't be too labor-intensive and time-consuming considering there are two possible diff drop mods scheduled for that day. I will bring tools, jack, jackstands in case...
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Looks like Bruce from Suspension.com is sending me a diff drop kit just in time for the Mod Day of Doom. Hopefully it won't be too labor-intensive and time-consuming considering there are two possible diff drop mods scheduled for that day. I will bring tools, jack, jackstands in case...
Fred, let me know if you want to caravan out there. Same goes for anyone else from the San Diego area.
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Most definitely!
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Most definitely!
I'm putting off my diff drop for now. Let me know if you're coming so I can start sending out my address.
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Most definitely!
I'm putting off my diff drop for now. Let me know if you're coming so I can start sending out my address.
How come?
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I don't have the diff cover gasket and don't feel like going to get it. It's a long story.
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Bummer...
My inspiration is gone... :'(
My dreams are shattered... :-\
My Otterpops are melted... :-[
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Looks like Bruce from Suspension.com is sending me a diff drop kit just in time for the Mod Day of Doom. Hopefully it won't be too labor-intensive and time-consuming considering there are two possible diff drop mods scheduled for that day. I will bring tools, jack, jackstands in case...
Well now Three. I was waiting to see how hard it is to do mitches truck. So maybe if all willing we can tag team to complete them faster. It is up to mitch since I have limited tools on hand as I do most work on base. But I am planning on helping do his first or visa versa. I dont know.
Ok Now I see mitch is holding off so I dont know the game plan now. I am traveling from Point Mugu and I need to make sure I can get my X out of Mitches driveway for sure at the end of the day. But I dont think you are going to need to crack the Diff itself so I am not seeing the need for a gasket. If this is the case I might be out as well. I dont have this gasket and The Nissan Dealers out here and more concerned with trying to sell me another X versus getting me the parts I need....
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Most definitely!
I'm putting off my diff drop for now. Let me know if you're coming so I can start sending out my address.
I got the address but it looks wierd with the hyphen is this correct?
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I didn't have time to get the bolts I need to fix my CV... argh. the hardware place close so early!!!
I might be out. I got to get the part saturday so I can make it to pismo.
Sorry guys.
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Bummer...
My inspiration is gone... :'(
My dreams are shattered... :-\
My Otterpops are melted... :-[
If the diff gasket comes we will do it. ;)
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Most definitely!
I'm putting off my diff drop for now. Let me know if you're coming so I can start sending out my address.
I got the address but it looks wierd with the hyphen is this correct?
It correct. That's the way they do it out here in the boonies. Use a comma if it works better. Anyone else need the address?
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I didn't have time to get the bolts I need to fix my CV... argh. the hardware place close so early!!!
I might be out. I got to get the part saturday so I can make it to pismo.
Sorry guys.
What bolts do you need. If I can help I will just to have your experince there...
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Bummer...
My inspiration is gone... :'(
My dreams are shattered... :-\
My Otterpops are melted... :-[
If the diff gasket comes we will do it. ;)
Read my post as I have attached instruction for the drop. No gasket needed. But there is one hitch. We need a sawza or some gasoline to burn out the old bushing and then pry out the old metal shim. Another another reason I want Spencer to go since he has done this. You remove the cv on the inside , like I did in your driveway but the inside and then remove the front of the diff and then crossmember. Looks easy enough but the shim part.
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I didn't have time to get the bolts I need to fix my CV... argh. the hardware place close so early!!!
I might be out. I got to get the part saturday so I can make it to pismo.
Sorry guys.
What bolts do you need. If I can help I will just to have your experince there...
heck I can even give you a CV
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Quick question: Is it ok to do a diff drop on a stock torsion-bar-cranked front suspension? With future UCA upgrade in mind?
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I will see what I can do. I will try to see if Ace carry what I need. If not, I will try to skip lunch and go to mcfadden dale for some.
I actually never did the diff drop, but it can't be that hard. you don't need gas, all you need is a propane torch to melt the bushing.
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I will see what I can do. I will try to see if Ace carry what I need. If not, I will try to skip lunch and go to mcfadden dale for some.
I actually never did the diff drop, but it can't be that hard. you don't need gas, all you need is a propane torch to melt the bushing.
Gasoline? Propane Torch?
Mitch, how many fire extinguishers have you got on hand? Also, who's bringing the video cam?
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I will see what I can do. I will try to see if Ace carry what I need. If not, I will try to skip lunch and go to mcfadden dale for some.
I actually never did the diff drop, but it can't be that hard. you don't need gas, all you need is a propane torch to melt the bushing.
Gasoline? Propane Torch?
Mitch, how many fire extinguishers have you got on hand? Also, who's bringing the video cam?
Now we're really livin' up to the MOD DAY OF DOOM... DOOM.... doom.... doom...... doom.....
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I need the gasket because I have a spiffy way of doing this. I have all the brackets and stuff the diff attaches to so I will prep them with then new bushings and then remove and replace the old ones. The bonus is that the diff gets fresh oil in the process.
I'll start sending out my address tonight.
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I will see what I can do. I will try to see if Ace carry what I need. If not, I will try to skip lunch and go to mcfadden dale for some.
I actually never did the diff drop, but it can't be that hard. you don't need gas, all you need is a propane torch to melt the bushing.
I am thinking more along the lines of sawza. Somthing about Mitch and Fire concerns me. It might be safe since Frank will be there but I dont know.....
Once the spacer is out. There still is the problem of getting this metal sleeve out that was once attached to the spacer. This is the part that has me wondering.
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. . . It might be safe since Frank will be there but I don't know.....
You're right to say "but I don't know...". If I see fire coming from under a truck with a 20 gallon gas tank, and all I've got in my hand is a piss-ant little fire extinguisher, you can be pretty sure that my basic survival instinct will override my other senses and I'll be running down the street screaming wildly. Come to think of it, I may park my truck a few doors down too.
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Chris, Can you please sent me the instructions?
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look at one of my previous post from yesturday and it is attached
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wow it took me forever to find that. THe attachements shoudl be bold of something
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wow it took me forever to find that. THe attachements shoudl be bold of something
Well tell the admin. I am not given any suggestions......
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wow it took me forever to find that. THe attachements shoudl be bold of something
Well tell the admin. I am not given any suggestions......
I found it no problem. ;D
I was just under my X and noticed that the boot on the driver's side CV is torn. One more thing. Good thing I have one.
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I just sent out a bunch of PMs with my infor for Mod Day. If you are planning on coming and didn't get a PM then please let me know.
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I just sent out a bunch of PMs with my infor for Mod Day. If you are planning on coming and didn't get a PM then please let me know.
I got this PM from some dirty old man asking what color socks I had on? Was this you?
Well there goes my guidance , since you are changing a boot. I hope spencer show up now for sure since I might need an hand. I might be a show and go. I cant afford the get halfway in and not finish for obvious reasons
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I just sent out a bunch of PMs with my infor for Mod Day. If you are planning on coming and didn't get a PM then please let me know.
I got this PM from some dirty old man asking what color socks I had on? Was this you?
Well there goes my guidance , since you are changing a boot. I hope spencer show up now for sure since I might need an hand. I might be a show and go. I cant afford the get halfway in and not finish for obvious reasons
Don't worry about it Chris. We will get yours done. I have done the CV on my own before so I'm not worried about it, I can do it on Sunday if need be.
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I will bring a spare CV boot.
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wow it took me forever to find that. THe attachements shoudl be bold of something
Well tell the admin. I am not given any suggestions......
I found it no problem. ;D
I was just under my X and noticed that the boot on the driver's side CV is torn. One more thing. Good thing I have one.
Fuggetaboutit. 8)
Mine's been torn for more than a year. It's nice and shiny in there too.
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Energy Suspension diff drop kit came in today... these bushings are huge! :o
Ok... so now what else do I need? ???
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nice, energy is good stuff. I didnt know about them till bobby did something and mentioned them.
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Fred, did that kit come with the metal tube parts that go in the bushings? Or was it just the bushings.
SLR's kits came with pieces of DOM stock that went in there.
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Negative. Just the bushings...
I was concerned about that, especially how it was stated in the website when I ordered them from Bruce (suspensionrestoration.com). He did mention that perhaps the stock one would work? I dunno... is that possible?
Can you please advise?
BTW, do you have a diff drop kit? If so, what kind? Any other issues we should be aware of?
Thanks!
Fred
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Got the bolts last night. THe ACE by my house ROCKS!
NOW if work would easy up alittle, I might be able to make it.....
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Negative. Just the bushings...
I was concerned about that, especially how it was stated in the website when I ordered them from Bruce (suspensionrestoration.com). He did mention that perhaps the stock one would work? I dunno... is that possible?
Can you please advise?
BTW, do you have a diff drop kit? If so, what kind? Any other issues we should be aware of?
Thanks!
Fred
I don't have one. Meant to, but never got around to it.
Short of taking measurements off a kit that's not in use to make the pieces on your own, I'm not sure what to tell you. You will need those pieces. They don't have to be DOM, but they do have to be there.
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Bobby,
So the stock metal ones are no good?
So you mean you've been running your current set-up with no issues or no need for a diff drop?
I just thought it would be a good precautionary measure before I upgrade my UCA's.
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I have no idea if what's in there from the factory can be made to work or not. I've never torn that stuff apart, but I seem to remember the factory setup being some not-round pieces that are molded into the rubber. Have to look under there to be sure.
I've not had any problems so far. But I will tell you this. One time on my way back from Colorado, I had it in 4wd on the highway because the ice was so bad. When the speeds picked up a bit, closer to 40, I got some bad vibration and it literally grumbled and popped itself out of 4wd while I was driving.
Perhaps that could've been avoided with things being lower. But honestly, I'm not racing and I tend to drive off road on the more conservative side, meaning not attacking the skinny pedal so much. That's helped keep the breakage to a minimum.
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We will see what can be done on Saturday. We may be able to do something with Chris' gasoline and Spenser's propane torch. ;D
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Hey Mitch, can you mic the ID, OD and length of the various bits and pieces before yours goes in?
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Great! Thanks Bobby!
I have a hydraulic jack, jackstands, a compressor (with tools) and some wrench tools I can bring...
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We will see what can be done on Saturday. We may be able to do something with Chris' gasoline and Spenser's propane torch. ;D
I was speaking with Rachel last night. She offered the use of her torch. I don't know what sort of fuel it uses, but I have a feeling it puts out substantially more heat than some little propane torch.
Also, Heather was just asking me if this was a "clothing optional" mod day. Something about wondering if she needed to do laundry Friday night. I did not see anything in the previous pages.
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Concidering who is going to be there, clothing will be required.
Bobby, I will try to get the messurements tomorrow. My micrometer needs new batteries.
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Here are the measurements.
3 pieces - 68.67mm long X 25.5mm OD X 13.9mm ID (2.7 in. X 1 in. X 0.54 in.)
1 piece - 47.86 mm long X 25.5mm OD X 13.9mm ID (1.9 in. X 1 in. X 0.54 in.)
I hope this helps but I doubt you'll be able to find this stuff easily. I suggest you call your source and see if you were shorted some parts or if the kit is suppose to use the stock inserts somehow.
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BTW, we will me having chili and hot dogs for lunch. If someone could bring some chips or sodas or something to go along with that, that would be terrific.
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Fred, did that kit come with the metal tube parts that go in the bushings? Or was it just the bushings.
SLR's kits came with pieces of DOM stock that went in there.
Yes mine has the metal stock , which goes in the middle of the bushings. Energys might have thiers done in the one piece format.
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Fred all considering , I dont think you need to put yourself though this stress. Stress is bad . I am doing my diff drop since I am lifted and have aftermarket UCAs. I have some issues I am doing this to resolve. We have options with yours.
1- Wait to do the drop on yours later
2-use the stock ones
3-measure the stock from my kit and do a hardware run. Mitch will have to assist since this is is area.
4-call bruce and ask WTF since he sold the kit and will have to support it
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I'll be there. No work that needs to be done, so I'll just supervise, and occasionally channel Fire Marshall / Safety Inspector Dan. Unless, of course, Dan shows up, in which case he can do that himself.
Dont forget the Sweats .....XL
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I'll be there. No work that needs to be done, so I'll just supervise, and occasionally channel Fire Marshall / Safety Inspector Dan. Unless, of course, Dan shows up, in which case he can do that himself.
Dont forget the Sweats .....XL
Chris, I've got an XL sweat shirt set aside for you (by the way, did you want one or two?). I'll bring it and the whole box with my on Saturday, in case anyone else wants one.
We have 1 more XL hooded sweat shirt (unless Chris wanted 2), 3 size L hooded sweat shirts, and 2 each XL long and short sleeve t-shirts left.
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I don't think a torch is necessary, unless you're going for one of those youtube moments. In which case, I want it filmed.
I think a drill and holesaw might be a better approach. Maybe a sawzall. That's always fun.
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but.......FIRE GOOD!!! oh ga chuck ga
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I'll be there. No work that needs to be done, so I'll just supervise, and occasionally channel Fire Marshall / Safety Inspector Dan. Unless, of course, Dan shows up, in which case he can do that himself.
Dont forget the Sweats .....XL
Chris, I've got an XL sweat shirt set aside for you (by the way, did you want one or two?). I'll bring it and the whole box with my on Saturday, in case anyone else wants one.
We have 1 more XL hooded sweat shirt (unless Chris wanted 2), 3 size L hooded sweat shirts, and 2 each XL long and short sleeve t-shirts left.
Hmm I take the two , but do I get a military discount of 10%?
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Chris, I sent you a PM.
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no frank I am not that kind of guy, shesh...
Also I hope someone has a floor jack ....mitch?.
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no frank I am not that kind of guy, shesh...
Also I hope someone has a floor jack ....mitch?.
Got it!
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I also have a floor jack and a pair of jack stands. If anyone else has these items, please bring them.
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ok, i will bring my mini work shop over.
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ok, i will bring my mini work shop over.
you know, I still am in aw at the on board air you built.....nice.....
The diff drop requires two jack stands and one floor jack and I am thankfull for mitch in this case. I just dont know if the stock bolts go though though the dom slugs given with the kits. This is the only thing I can think of?
I am bringing some white grease, WD40 and a small tool set like some sockets and assorted open ends. I know mitch has more stuff but I want everyone to atleast get something done. I Hope everyone sprayed today, with WD40 or liquid wrench. Especially if you have been to SODA Lake.
Also Thanks Frank....
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had a late night last night and over slept.
I am leaving now!!!! Don't start he fire without me :)
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Mitch, Where's the link for the live web-cast?
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Well, no fires and very little blood. So the Mod Day of Doom didn't quite live up to it's name. Thank goodness. Thanks to Fred, Frank, Chris, Spenser, Bruce and his dad (sorry, I forgot your name) for showing up and making it a fun day. I learned a lot about doing a diff drop. Like when you drop the diff make sure your hand is not in the way.
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That stretch of 60 is super fun!!!! I almost wanted to turn around and drive it again.
I just got home. I am super dirty.
Did anything fall off Chris.
Fred, I called I think the slug will run you around 30bucks
Any one else wants teh slugs, tell me know so I can pick them up all at once.
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I can vouch for the keep the hand out of the way of the dropping diff/ Its funny how you notice cuts and abrasions with some soap and water. Nothing felll off on the way home. Or I havent found out yet...I still could swear the steering is lighter now. I turned lock to lock and no rim rubbing?
Everyone , thanks for helping me do this mod. It was way more then I thought. I wouldnt have been able to get out of the driveway without everyone helping. From Frank working the levers to spencer improvising from the crappy directions given. I think the next one is going to be cake now.
I had forgotten why this club was formed. I think we look to far ahead of the carriage so to speak. It was formed for people who are enthusiastic about and love our Nissan Trucks. Both X and Fronty. Who share thier time and experience with others in a somewhat friendly enviorment. Ok it was friendly except for mitch. He is so negative.....
good job on the slugs. All considering a great price...
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Chris, remember to go back and torque down those bolts after one tank of gas, then again after your first 4x4 trip
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Chris, remember to go back and torque down those bolts after one tank of gas, then again after your first 4x4 trip
Going to go do that next weekend. I am also going to do the sway bushing at that time. I also got some silicone for the skid plate bolts. I went to autozone for the bushing since they carry energy. They told me that they cant get them. I found them at a online store free ship.
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I was poking around under my X this afternoon and I believe I can install the diff drop kit without dropping the diff. I am going to try to make time sometime this week to try to get the three bolts in the back cross member out. If I can do that then I can do the diff drop in less than two hours. ;D
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Chris, remember to go back and torque down those bolts after one tank of gas, then again after your first 4x4 trip
What are the torque specs?
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Chris, go to the nissan service Man. file. PD.pdf, page 20 for torque specs
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Have to say i had a lot of fun yesterday. Learned a lot and its always a great experience. Putting on the tow hitch was fun as well. Thanks for the help Fred!!
Mitch thanks again for the use of your house and driveway along with tools and food :) It was good seeing you again.
Also good seeing Chris, Spencer and Frank. It had been a while. Frank we should plan another trip to Borrego and Chris glad the King Kong hasnt fallen off yet ;)
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That stretch of 60 is super fun!!!! I almost wanted to turn around and drive it again.
I just got home. I am super dirty.
Did anything fall off Chris.
Fred, I called I think the slug will run you around 30bucks
Any one else wants teh slugs, tell me know so I can pick them up all at once.
All I can say is... THANK YOU! You guys rock! Really learned a lot. I wish we had a picture of the time when it was "all hands on deck" when we were trying to align the front diff. It was like being in the operating room... but dirtier... :P
Spencer--you da man! Thanks for the spare adjuster... and for hooking it up with the tubing. Thanks for checking for me... just let me know how to send you the money (Paypal, etc.).
Mitch--thanks for hosting the Mod Day of Negativity... (not enough carnage to justify DOOM). :-[
Chris--for being the "negative" guinea pig... lol! It sure was quite a task. Wish we could have gotten a video of you taking off after the kid in the neighborhood flagged you... very NASCAR-like!
Bruce--it was a pleasure working on your truck! You must be proud to have such a supportive Dad. It was a pleasure meeting you both.
Frank--your generosity and unconditional willingness to help really shines.
Thanks for reminding everyone what the club is all about... ;D
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Have to say i had a lot of fun yesterday. Learned a lot and its always a great experience. Putting on the tow hitch was fun as well. Thanks for the help Fred!!
Mitch thanks again for the use of your house and driveway along with tools and food :) It was good seeing you again.
Also good seeing Chris, Spencer and Frank. It had been a while. Frank we should plan another trip to Borrego and Chris glad the King Kong hasnt fallen off yet ;)
You are very welcome Bruce!
Also, try to see if you can get another bolt to add to the 2 x 2 that is already mounted on your hitch... just to give it more strength. I think have 3 bolts on each side would really make it solid.
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Chris--for being the "negative" guinea pig... lol! It sure was quite a task. Wish we could have gotten a video of you taking off after the kid in the neighborhood flagged you... very NASCAR-like!
Why do I have to be the negative guinea pig. Why not a happy ground hog
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Chris--for being the "negative" guinea pig... lol! It sure was quite a task. Wish we could have gotten a video of you taking off after the kid in the neighborhood flagged you... very NASCAR-like!
Why do I have to be the negative guinea pig. Why not a happy ground hog
Welp... since your diff is now about less than an inch closer to the ground now... I guess you can be the ground hog... but still negative... haha! :P